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The fast feedback loop is.. sometimes not feeling so fast. Codex regularly takes a couple of minutes on tasks I give it.. sometimes considerably more.this takes me out if the zone. Still faster than what I could do still enables working in an exhausted state where I would otherwise be unable to produce code. But there are problems in the UX to be fixed I feel

It could be logically valid but irrelevant? Allowing for the atrophying of all our skills is dangerous? While simultaneously building ever more complicated edifices that control our lives? Not a doomer but you really just want to shrug and say it ain't no thing?

Perhaps humans have peaked due to the fundamental biological nature of our brains and AI will eventually surpass us in mathematical intelligence.

That has been the ultimate goal of creating AI -- not to simply match human intelligence but to surpass it. If it surpasses us, does that make it irrelevant? Everything around us is powered by mathematics, most of it I don't understand, and soon perhaps everything will be powered by mathematics that everybody doesn't understand.


To what end?

“Hey guys, the human condition can be experienced by these machines more efficiently than we are able to! Now we can finally die off!”

Why are we enabling a world that outpaces us? Is this going to lead to anything other than displacement in the long term?

Do you ever stop and ask why we’re building the world we’re building?

To what end does a world we cannot comprehend or rebuild from first principles serve us?


> Why are we enabling a world that outpaces us?

Because we kinda suck. Wars, poverty, destruction of the environment, etc. Maybe AI will be worse -- the are plenty of movies on that subject -- or maybe it will be better.

> Is this going to lead to anything other than displacement in the long term?

We may have already damaged the environment enough that we're going to die off soon anyway. So without AI, we were already on that path to "displace" ourselves -- I don't think that argument is that compelling.

Perhaps this is the natural evolution of intelligent life. Eventually the sun will die and everything we are will be gone forever, maybe this is the only way that something of us survives.

> Do you ever stop and ask why we’re building the world we’re building?

We're not building a world. We're just ants. Individuals making individual decisions that have nothing to do with the rest of the world. You don't have to look too far to find humans that literally care nothing about humanity as a whole and everything about themselves.

> To what end does a world we cannot comprehend or rebuild from first principles serve us?

We already live in that world. You wouldn't even be able to build a toaster from first principles without the knowledge and infrastructure that already exists.


I mean, ideally to the end of poverty, disease, climate change, war, starvation, etc. You can disagree about whether this would be the outcome in practice, but I don't think 'why might we want to create something smarter than us' is a hard question. Humans losing their status as top dog is really a trivial price to pay for the potential return.

We could do all of those things with today's technology. They aren't technological problems, they are human problems

I don't understand that what you mean. Disease and climate change seem like clear cut technology problems, and the rest, save for war, have obvious technological solutions. What does it mean for them to be human problems? Should I expect them to solve themselves?

Current technology is sufficient to greatly reduce climate change, there just isn't the political will to do it.

Obviously not every disease can be cured, but even diseases that were essentially gone are coming back because people have just decided they don't care anymore. There are measles outbreaks happening all over the place right now.

mRNA vaccines are a medical marvel and a significant portion of the population has been convinced that horse paste is a better solution.

There are enough resources available that poverty and starvation could be essentially eliminated or at the very least drastically reduced. We just don't do it because people would rather hoard wealth instead.

The technology is here, but too many people profit from not solving the problems


So humans are the problem. I can't tell if this reply is agreeing with ToValueFunfetti or disagreeing.

@bonitochips

They killed your comment, but you should know that you've posted it on the world's #1 AI propaganda site, where literally trillions of dollars are at stake and ROI depends on the correctness of the discourse running among the meat LLMs foraging or lurking here.


It's not that their argument is wrong or not worth discussing, it's that it is utterly irrelevant when the question at stake is whether the math is valid and useful or not. It's effectively whataboutism.

I think sometimes it's worth being concerned about something else. What about "this" is valid if the "this" is important to us.

Everything is potentially interconnected.

What separates things is course-graining, not ontological separation per se.


No one here likes to hear their AI girlfriend isn't real.

> I tried asking Claude fron the android app if it could sign me up for the waitlist and it said that it couldn't.

I assume this is because it would require account editing tools available to Claude. And it opens the possibility perhaps of user tricking the llm into doing something inappropriate with the account. Seems like if properly designed that should not be possible however ..


Why worry about security, we want convenience at any cost! Let the LLM upload my information to anyone who asks nicely. But of course, when this causes lots of prompt attacks and people being signed up for stuff they didn’t want, we will all be complaining about what kind of idiot would allow Claude to sign up for things on my behalf.

It really doesn't. It just requires an API endpoint for signing up to the waitlist and a skill injected into the session explaining how to use it.

If Anthropic doesn't trust Claude, why should we?

I hope this is rhetorical, because it has been raised since generative AI proliferated - you shouldn't.

Tbf jev should also be required to use vision on the UI to decide where to click to proceed with the quiz

Nice site. I assume vibecoded but it was tasteful and performant on mobile. Thanks for open sourcing it

Thanks! Yeah built with claude code.

I've been practicing leet code recently because.. reasons. But I actually have been enjoying it a lot more than in the past because I get that now scarce hands on experience

Silly math puzzle is reductionist. If it was considered a worthwhile life long pursuit how is it dumb to be upset that the rug was pulled on it

Gate the refund with llms I guess

I did also notice that in the abyss mode I gave some answers that "should" be popular but weren't and I'm wondering if it's simply because of small sample size.

I figured any hire at openai would know that at least

A good chunk of what keeps openai and similar companies afloat is subpar people who are willing if not eager to do crappy stuff to other people. A lot of the world works this way actually.

I dont think it's subpar people.

The only word for it is hubris. The overwhelming sense that your ability in one area has some magical transitive property to ability in another.

Can I write code? Sure. Im a bad designer, I can follow along in accounting, Im a terrible actor.

I would guess that there is much more to this story than just someone "bugging" a conference room. Though I would venture to guess that the keystone cops never get to the bottom of it.


Yea no this person demonstrated a lack of foundational skills in systems thinking, basic understanding of logging, how their own products work, basic operational security, how to plan ahead, etc. There's no world class genius or even mediocre person hiding behind this story...

These are the actions of a dolt who is comfortable violating the privacy of others.


Word.

Company is another.


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