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Unless something has shifted, “everyone catches up” is because these bleeding edge models are distilled. You don’t see this happening with other European and US labs and the problem isn’t something being ignored. I’m not convinced this pattern will continue indefinitely.
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Why is it OK to train on the collective IP of humanity and call it fair use but then call the next batch distilled with negative connotations?

I did no such moral claim. I just noted that the foundation labs are working on technical hurdles to thwart distillation efforts and the cost and quality of Chinese models isn’t likely to keep up with the 6 month lag time everyone has assumed.

Fair enough, apologies for reading in to it that which you did not mean.

This is why Imaginary Property is an illusion, as everything is a derivative work, and AI is going to make that fact even clearer.

That's not true for literally everything.

When eg I snap a picture of my dog, that's not derived from anything. But I still get intellectual property rights for the photograph.


I don’t follow. Fair use is a copyright defense, and nobody is suggesting distillation attacks are just a copyright violation are they?

Aren’t they alleging these other companies directly entered into a contract and violated the terms, and in cases where question, answer pairs were obtained without such agreement, it was accomplished by outright wire fraud or theft?


Are you suggesting that worldwide copyright violation is more acceptable than contract breach between companies?

I don't understand on what you are basing this reasoning? If a well educated workforce can produce Fable then why couldn't a well educated workforce produce MiMo?

Besides, the latter actually published and open-sourced its RL stack to make it reproducible, which would in fact make it more trustworthy than the models you are speculating were distilled.




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