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They're just accepting it. It shows in the quality of their products also. They ship a lot of features in Claude Code for example but it is clear that is a vibe-coded mess.


Mess might not be the right word, but lots of features are clearly developed without any grand vision or coherent thought about how the features are supposed to work together.


Did you hear the stats on the claude code leak? there were multi-thousand line for loops with hundreds of conditional / if statements written in typescript. Its insanely difficult to decipher. At this point "mess that only AI can understand" is what they have and must continue building upon.


Also, we don’t know how many billions of dollars was spent on making it work. They are running 1000s of agents against their codebase 24/7, and still only producing what they’ve put out so far.

It might be fully automated and eventually the agents figure out all of the bugs, but I suspect the costs are so large that no sane company would ever write code this way, and probably WAAAY more expensive than just hiring humans to write and test it.


Okay, hire humans and build something better that actually sells.


Ever looked at a sendmail config?


> without any grand vision or coherent thought about how the features are supposed to work together.

Which is what the developer should actually be paying attention to, but I suppose they are just adding features for the sake of adding features.


This is more of a product concern which is where the bottleneck has moved to.


They can do what they want. That "should" doesn't belong here.


They can do what they want, but from a user perspective they should be doing something else. Seems like a perfectly fine way to use that word to me.


Huh? Yeah, of course they can do what they want. That does not preclude me from having an opinion about what they should prioritize. I am criticizing their product decisions, not claiming they are not free to make them...


I think that the definition of "mess" in software context.


They are eating their own dog shit.


Haha, that's a good one. Perhaps we should coin a new phrase: "dog shitting", where a company eats its own dog shit before inflicting it on their users. :)


> By virtue of Claude’s ability to write immense amounts of code much faster than we could ourselves, Scion is among the most well-tested and well-defended codebases we have ever worked on.

made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.


Please try and dial back the hyperbole. It doesn't help your case.


Artifact viewing on Mac was broken for months.

There was a point where they were also rendering images as base64 text.

Can you point out the hyperbole to me?


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