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Right concept (vibrating stimulation) wild design choices. You don't need to stimulate the fingers for this type of treatment to be effective (wrist is enough).


Having built a pulsed vibration wristband for someone with Parkinson's, just a few notes. For Parkinson's patients:

  - there's a small-ish window in the disease progression where pulsed vibration is able to help a person regain some intentional motor control
  - the device doesn't stop the tremors
  - the pulsed vibration does let the brain's control signal come through stronger, so drawing/typing/moving the mouse is more intentional.  
  - this is no more effective than the results of levidopa/carbidopa treatment, and the levidopa/carbidopa typically calms the overall tremors
  - as Parkinson's progresses, these devices become useless, and if the patient qualifies for deep brain stimulation, it's worth looking into (regain years of useful life if you're lucky).
I haven't tested the device on people with essential tremor, so I don't have anything smart to say there.

You can make a very unsophisticated version of this without a lot of hardware:

  - small microcontroller with 3v outputs (XIAO's are perfect)
  - 3v sealed eccentric mass motors (aliexpress $1/ea)
  - elastic wristband
  - usb battery
  - software to pulse the motors for about 200 miliseconds for an on off sequence of about 8 times, then rest for about a second and repeat.
Hopefully these folks will price it affordably.

Side note: the idea was published in 2016-2017 in a few promotional videos from Microsoft research: https://www.windowscentral.com/microsofts-emma-watch-and-pro...


This is a super cool project.

In general I would not recommend driving a motor (even a small one) directly with a microcontroller GPIO pin. Those pins aren't designed to sink much current and you'll at best get a very weak response, because although the MCU is 3V that's only going to be maintained with negligible load on the pin. At worst flyback may destroy your microcontroller because the motor is an inductor and will cause a reverse voltage spike when turned off.

A slightly more robust approach that costs just a few pennies more is to use a BJT (i.e. an NPN transistor) to drive the motor and add a flyback diode (a reverse biased diode across the motor's windings) and a little .1uf capacitor.

You could also use a FET to drive it. Just be aware most common ones don't fully turn on at 3V gate voltage and will still present a significant resistance in the circuit which is why I would probably use a BJT.


I completely agree. if you're going to produce these, do real power management, . However, if you're doing this as one off experiment, driving one tiny eccentric motor at a time for short pulses via a XIAO (ESP32) or RP2040/2350 was fine (we had over a year of use without an issue). YMMV.


I actually built a wearable that used these motors a long time ago, which is why I was particularly interested. What i found is that connecting the 3.3V rail directly to the motor gave a much easier-to-feel vibration than the GPIO pin, which is what caused me to learn about their really low current limits. However the current sunk also varies by microcontroller.


Interesting, it’s not a closed loop with the tremors nor the bioelectrical signal?

I’m curious to know why they had to “choose a disease” for the market tests. some treatments are symptomatic and don’t need to select the exact disease they are going to market for.


No closed loop needed. Apparently the brain/nerve circuit just needs a regular input stimulus to let more of output signal get through. Someone in neurobiology may have better answers for the why.


Odd, I saw a video of a pianist where the device did stop the tremors in their hands so they could play.

Any experience in applying the device to tremors caused by other issues?


this person above i think is saying over time as the disease progresses(gets worse) , it stops working as well ... which is sad... but at least maybe for folks in this stage of the disease there's a way to restore some amount of normal.


Watch the video the article is based on - not connecting to the internet doesn't keep you safe in many cases: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFVTcM28KA


"Watch this two hour long video" is not a particularly useful reply. If you think the TV can exfiltrate your data without an internet connection then you should be able to explain how it could do that in your own words.


Just because you didn't allow it on your local WiFi doesn't mean it did not connect to the Internet. Your neighbors might have a guest WiFi it can use. Or maybe it has a built-in cell modem. Your data is valuable, there's reason to put effort into getting it.


Wouldn't using a neighbor's Wi-Fi without anyone's permission or instruction violate CFAA or some other law?

Also, wouldn't this be trivial to test by just setting up your own network and seeing if the TV connects?


Xfinity (aka Comcast) routers broadcast a separate network for Comcast subscribers do use from their phone. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Comcast and TV manufacturer's could have an agreement that would allow TVs to connect.


Using internet access doesn't seem to be illegal. If there's no password you can't even argue it was protected. Residential proxies are legal too (as they should be - fuck cloudflare).


They have permission from the provider, why they are able to log in.


Laws aren't enforced against large companies.


That's what the Ask button is for with the summarize option, to not have to watch unnecessarily-long videos. Apparently it does connect to public hotspots, often run by major providers.


This is because they rooted the TV.

They can just start a capture, record to RAM / storage, and retrieve it later when it is reconnected to the network.

Otherwise if it's disconnected, it is still hard to exfiltrate the data somewhere. Maybe they could get creative via Bluetooth, but then you would need a cooperating device in proximity of the device.


I think the main risk is that if you - or your kids, or your spouse, or a guest, or someone you give/sell the TV to - do connect the TV to the Internet for even a moment years from now, then all those logs you wanted to keep away from LG are likely to delivered.


Worse, if you watch the GN video this article is based on you'll find the TV can figure out how to leverage other non obvious networks (threads, etc) to reach LG servers. Worth a watch to see how bad this is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFVTcM28KA


Its a 2+ hour video. Do you have a timestamp for this?


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