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My take: unless they're a sovereign-backed team (North Korea, Russia, Iran, etc...the usual suspects) the hackers are very likely to get caught given:

a) The amounts stolen

b) The very poor uncensorability and anonymity guarantees offered by the kind of crypto they stole

Regarding uncensorability, some of these cryptos score so bad on that axis that the stolen goods can likely be recovered by a simple decision from the folks who manage/own the chain.


> It seems better when it's on an exchange like Binance, because they cover you when it gets stolen.

Assuming they actually can cover the losses financially.

And if they don't good luck suing them.



Is HN an advertizing site now?

My general impression of all Google models I've tried so far is a general "goody two shoes" feeling which I find very, very frustrating.

I'm going to experiment with this one (assuming they ever get around to actually releasing it), and I'm really hoping the lame cultural aftertaste is gone.


> some people are 100% Gemini, some are 100% Claude, some are using both.

Does that mean Anthropic now has a copy of Google's source code?

[EDIT]: thanks to people in the know for their answers.

Follow-up question:

if Anthropic models run in a Google cage, does that not also mean Google can distill Anthropic models even easier (both fast and unseen)?


Google offers Anthropic models hosted on GCP through their Agent Platform (fka Vertex AI) - presumably any internal Anthropic use never crosses the Google boundary.

> if Anthropic models run in a Google cage, does that not also mean Google can distill Anthropic models even easier (both fast and unseen)?

Anthropic is indeed trusting Google and other companies they rent compute from. Distilling or stealing the weights would be a contract violation, and would wreck other business relationships. I would be less worried about Google doing this, and more concerned if there is some sketchy neocloud in a van offering suspiciously low pricing.


AIUI our Claude traffic runs on GCP and so never "leaves the building".

> if Anthropic models run in a Google cage, does that not also mean Google can distill Anthropic models even easier (both fast and unseen)?

Not really in the interest of the cloud org to allow that, they don't really care how well deepmind is doing as long as they can sell TPU and API (incl. reselling openai and anthropic).


No, GCP has been selling Anthropic models for a while (and soon to be OpenAI models).

> When you are a megacorp, perhaps here even the megacorp, every mistake you make is worth millions to someone, the government, the media, individuals, or all of them

I don't buy it.

SpaceX is not exactly a small corporation, and they nevertheless strike me as far less risk-averse than GOOG and they deal with actual hardware that actually effing explodes.


Great to see Google reclaim the frontier, however, as usual with most Google launches, an announcement for a product that no one can actually try outside of a tiny circle of users.

> it’s pleasant

for whom?


i tested it out, outside of googles wrapper because googles setup makes me want to murder the author of their prompts and harness

> Microsoft and Others Tell Crypto Platform Not to Tokenize Their Stocks

Do they actually have a legal say in the matter?


The article is about the SEC framework giving them the right

Yes.

Did you read the article?

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