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Oh how the tables have turned! "It's a private platform, they can ban whomever they want" leftists chanted ad nauseam! "I never thought leopards would eat MY face," sobs leftist who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.

seems like you either didn't read the article, or didn't understand it

the premise was _not_ to force platforms to keep accounts open, but rather that protest organizers should use _decentralized_ platforms so that their voices can't be shut down by one company


But overlooks that their voices won’t be heard at all.

no, not really

and even if the reach is smaller, at least it's some reach instead of no reach


>Today's HOAs are very frequently involved in racial discrimination suits for violations of the Fair Housing Act.

No they're not.


Sorry, that wasn't my opinion I was trying to debate, that's just a fact reported by HUD[1].

[1] https://www.hud.gov/sites/dfiles/FHEO/documents/FHEO%20Annua...


>Sorry, that wasn't my opinion

Ah, so it's a delusional belief not based on facts or reality.

>that's just a fact reported by HUD

Categorically false claim not made in your source. The linked article makes zero claims about HOAs being "very frequently involved in racial discrimination suits for violations of the Fair Housing Act."


No. The Democratic Party exists as a way to enforce racial segregation.

Thats no longer the reason they still persist. But their creation was nothing but.


The fan is not exerting a downward force on the car, it's creating a vacuum underneath the car.

Whataboutism.

>Yes their actual business is in trouble.

No it's not.

>Tesla’s actual business, making cars, continues to degrade.

False. Revenue and deliveries beat so far this year, Q3 also a beat.

Don't let your Elon Derangement Syndrome cloud your ability to think rationally.


You're aware that "beat" means "beat expectations," right? You're aware that expectations are increasingly that Tesla's business is struggling?

TSLA is down 18% YTD. That's because their business is doing so well?


>You're aware that "beat" means "beat expectations," right?

You're aware that the "expectations" are they run a profitable company, right?

>You're aware that expectations are increasingly that Tesla's business is struggling?

You're aware that the expectations are increasingly that Tesla's business is stable, and showed record deliveries and backlog in Q2?

>TSLA is down 18% YTD. That's because their business is doing so well?

Auto manufacturing sector (DJUSAU) is down 16% YTD, and Tesla's stock is overpriced to begin with. Tesla's most direct competitor in the US, Rivian, is down 34% YTD. Stop getting your business/economic news from BlueSky/reddit.


Yes, profitable with slowing growth, shrinking margins, and increasing competition. This is a death spiral for Musk's ultra capital-intensive mode of operating.

That's why Musk is trying to claim Tesla isn't an automotive company (except when comparisons to such suit him and his cultists, of course).


> Stop getting your business/economic news from BlueSky/reddit.

And where should they get them? From Twitter?


>And where should they get them?

Credible business/economic news outlets.

>From Twitter?

No.


Like FT?

October 2: Tesla deliveries fall 2% as US consumers buy fewer EVs

July 23: Tesla shares tumble 11% as discounts hit profits

April 2: Tesla reports weaker than expected 6% rise in global deliveries

January 29: Tesla scraps models in pivot to AI as annual revenue falls for the first time

Tesla growth is slowing, margins are getting crunched, competition is heating up. Tesla knows they're fucked so they're pivoting into AI. The pivot into AI might work, but Musk himself unambiguously thinks Tesla is fucked as an automotive company.


>Like FT?

Yes, a site the corroborates:

>October 2: Tesla deliveries fall 2% as US consumers buy fewer EVs

Tesla outperformed expectations and the overall US EV market by a landslide. [US EV] sales in Q3 2026 were down 39.5% from a year ago whereas Tesla was only down 2%.

>July 23: Tesla shares tumble 11% as discounts hit profits

The stock is up 19% since then.

>April 2: Tesla reports weaker than expected 6% rise in global deliveries

Subsequently crushed the next quarters, breaking previous records as stated above.

>Tesla growth is slowing

The EV market is slowing, yet Tesla outperforms.

>margins are getting crunched

This is true for every automaker.

>competition is heating up

LOL! Competition is getting crushed, some of it leaving the EV market entirely.

>Tesla knows they're fucked so they're pivoting into AI. The pivot into AI might work, but Musk himself unambiguously thinks Tesla is fucked as an automotive company.

Peak Elon Derangement Syndrome. Take the L, you're out of your league and your own sources proved you wrong.


My god...

> [US EV] sales in Q3 2026 were down 39.5% from a year ago whereas Tesla was only down 2%.

Tesla's global sales were down 2%. Their US sales were down 20%. Tesla's decline itself constitutes 1/5th of the overall US decline.

While Tesla's US EV sales fell 20%, Rivian's grew 45%, and Toyota climbed 328%.

You're aware that "they're in a cooling sector" is not a good rebuttal to "their core business is endangered," right?

> Peak Elon Derangement Syndrome. Take the L, you're out of your league and your own sources proved you wrong.

You're so right, king. Elon is pivoting out of cars because they're just crushing it tooooo hard in the car business. Excellent response. The [X] Derangement Syndrome formulation is just shorthand for "I've decided to shut my brain off."


>My god...

My god, he's replyguying over taking the L.

>Tesla's global sales were down 2%. Their US sales were down 20%. Tesla's decline itself constitutes 1/5th of the overall US decline.

The slump in EV sales has Tesla's increasing it's share of the US EV market. Market share increased even though its US sales were down for the eighth straight month in September. US sales were down 16 percent compared to the same period last year, and just blew out the quarter.

Tesla gained market share while just delivering a record quarter.

>While Tesla's US EV sales fell 20%, Rivian's grew 45%, and Toyota climbed 328%.

GMC’s U.S. EV sales fell about 57%, Ford fell 80%, Volkswagen is down 90% nearly out of the market, Kia/Hyundai (one of the best non-Tesla EV sales) down 50%.

Of course Rivian grew, they're ramping their factory, but the stock just hit a 52-week low, did not give great guidance for Q4.

>You're aware that "they're in a cooling sector" is not a good rebuttal to "their core business is endangered," right?

You're aware that a "cooling sector" that ebbs and flows != "core business is endangered," right? No, you're not aware, you're oblivious.

>You're so right, king.

At least you admit your EDS.

>Elon is pivoting out of cars because they're just crushing it tooooo hard in the car business.

Pivoting out so hard they had a record quarter for deliveries and gained market share LOLOL, delusional.

>The [X] Derangement Syndrome formulation is just shorthand for "I've decided to shut my brain off."

Yes, you have shut your brain off, thank you for admitting it.

We haven't even touched on Tesla Power, up 10%.


Only the truly Twitterbrained can think “having a conversation with someone” is “replyguying.” Seriously, can you tie your shoes?

You’re literally bragging about a company losing less slowly than (some) of its competitors?

And yes actually being in a cooling sector does mean your business is endangered lmao. That’s literally why Elon is pivoting!

What’s your explanation for the pivot?


The October 2 headline is cherry picking. The preceding yoy quarter was inflated by the tax credit rush before it expired. Q3 was also higher than Q2.

You've also cherry-picked an instance where Tesla reported weaker than expected growth but you've omitted the times where it reported stronger than expected growth.

As for shrinking margins, that's largely due to growing R&D spending. That's not necessarily or even normally a negative thing.

The growing investment into AI and autonomy is part of a very long standing trend that has been declared for about decade. It's not an indication of desperation (beyond the ever-present desperation that companies always feel with the heat of competitive fires under their feet) or some failure of some previous plan.

I want to add one final point, and that is that every company's position is precarious, including Tesla's. So if that is what you're saying about Tesla, I would agree.

Where I would disagree is in the insinuation that its position is any more tenuous or precarious than any other company's.

Markets can change. Consumer tastes can change. Research and development efforts can fail. competitors can emerge. All these things hold true for every company all the time. And it holds true for Tesla. So, being a cynic when it comes to the prospects of a specific company is very likely to prove prescient. The only point I would disagree with you on is the idea that Tesla's position has recently degraded. Its position has always been precarious, and it has succeeded despite that, not because of some comparatively superior past position.


Don't confuse rational discourse for "victimhood". Finding reasoned discourse difficult to understand and centering it around "victimhood" is ironically an effeminate trait.

I wasn't specifically addressing the person I was replying to—speaking instead to the general victimhood I see on display when this topic comes up.

I've lost friends to the "man-o-sphere" that think women and minorities have it easy, it's the white male that is being persecuted.

Pathetic.


>I wasn't specifically addressing the person I was replying to—speaking instead to the general victimhood I see on display when this topic comes up.

Oh, so just whatever you feel like is happening you delusionally believe is happening. Not surprising.

>I've lost friends to the "man-o-sphere" that think women and minorities have it easy, it's the white male that is being persecuted.

I've lost friends to the "DEI-o-sphere" that think men and majorities have it easy, it's the non-white female that is being persecuted.

Pathetic.


>Has the anti-DEI movment (and current administration) created a truly fair and equitable society that focuses on merit in the absence of gender and race? No.

Has the DEI movment (and previous administration) created a truly fair and equitable society that focuses on merit in the absence of gender and race? No.

>It has created a society in which the contributions of anyone other than white men are systemically attacked, torn down and even erased from the public record.

It has created a society in which the contributions of anyone other than white men are systemically exalted, praised and even defended from the public record.

Jason Arday.


This is just my subjective experience, but the only people I've ever seen complain about "anti-DEI" in real life were the most incompetent women I've ever met. These people were clearly aware, on some level, that "anti-DEI" is a threat to them specifically.

The fact that you couldn't muster an actual response but just plagiarized my comment adds another data point to my experience.

That was my response.

The fact that you couldn't muster an actual response but just complained about the plagerization of your comment adds another data point to my experience.


"The fact that you couldn't muster an actual response"

I did.

What is the purpose of your behavior? Do you think this will change anyone's opinions? Are you just trying to bait me? Are you angry and using this as an outlet?

Because responding in this childish way, parrotting everything I say, just supports my original point. If your intent was to get people to reconsider their opinion of people like you, you're failing. You just make yourself look bad.

So what is the purpose? Wasting people's time? Making them angry at you? To what end?


>I did.

So did I.

What is the purpose of your behavior? Do you think this will change anyone's opinions? Are you just trying to bait me? Are you angry and using this as an outlet?

Because responding in this childish way, bitching over everything I post, just supports my original point. If your intent was to get people to reconsider their opinion of people like you, you're failing. You just make yourself look bad.

So what is the purpose? Wasting people's time? Making them angry at you? To what end?

This is just my subjective experience, but the only people I've ever seen complain about "anti-DEI" in real life were the most incompetent women I've ever met. These people were clearly aware, on some level, that "anti-DEI" is a threat to them specifically.


> If your intent was to get people to reconsider their opinion of people like you

It wasn't. I was commiserating with someone who already shared my opinion, and then you responded.

DEI would be less of a threat to you if you made yourself less unpleasant.


Companies couldn't hide their blatant racism and sexism behind DEI any longer. Corporates were legally threatened for violating Civil Rights laws.

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