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I would also like a 7 seater, but that might be uniquely american concept.

In Europe, they are usually known as MPVs or "people carriers"; Renault has made their Espace since 1984 (though, it looks like they abandoned that format in 2012); there was also the Renault Grand Scénic, which ended in 2022. So not a uniquely American concept, but it seems like the market in Europe for them is thinning significantly. A shame though, I really like the look of that Espace mk1.

Also the Citroen Grand C4 [1], which is a 7-seater where the back row fold down to get a completely flat foor - great family car. It's been replaced by the Space Tourer now I believe, which goes up to a 9-seater.

[1] https://www.autotrader.co.uk/cars/used/citroen/grand-c4-pica...


It's not really a vehicle that many people need. Our VW Caddy seats 7 with the third row of seats, but that was installed for a week before we took it out and it's been in the garage since then. I've had the car full of stuff more often than I had it full of people. And even then it's mostly air in a car that's shaped like a brick wall that's been driven around most of the time. I can drive it at around 6.5 l/100 km of gas, but 7.1 is more typical. So a more sensible choice would have been a smaller and more efficient car.

Full size MPVs are status symbols in Japan and China, they're making a little bit of a comeback in Europe at the moment with various copies of the Toyota Alphard like the Lexus LM and about 50 different Chinese clones arriving soon like the Denza D9, Xpeng X9, Zeekr 009 etc. I have an imported Vellfire, so I'm quite exited for all the clones coming.

I feel like the opposite is true, Americans seem oddly opposed to vans, minivans, and people movers. Toyota alone make something like 20 different models with three rows of seats as standard, and school event parking where I am is packed with 7 seaters. Wasn’t Tesla Model X a 7 seater?

I've seen taxi drivers use them in Europe multiple times basically every time you want to transport more people. Beats using 2 cars.

Any more than the four-door full-size pickup truck that is the Cybertruck?

Not really. Peugeot has been making 7 seaters for over half a century now.

Instead of fixing a broken version, maybe each model should have started from scratch

yea for a real comparison between models this would have been better, but I have a feeling he just wanted to play the best possible version of PoP.

That may still be a new model. Having an existing broken engine might bias the new model in iterative design vs figuring out what's wrong in the first place.

I agree this would have been more interesting.

Not everything is malicious. The author of the feature already responded on why this happened

I'm not the person you replied to, but your response misses their point: rollout issue aside, the approach is flawed by design. The feature author didn't address that at all.

The person had something else before they edited. They were overly negative, saying (from my memory) that it was inexcusable, and they had enough, pointing to malice.

The response as it is now sounds fair. Before that it was not.


Ah, thanks for clarifying. (And shame on the GP.)

My only edit was to continue refuting at the beginning of the sentence that Claude Code's use of remote control to control agent.md is still incorrect. The rest is identical to the original, and my attitude before and after has not changed.

As for whatever "had enough" he mentioned, I'm not sure whether he said it on purpose or genuinely misremembered.

Since that's how he remembers it, so be it. I can't be bothered to explain anymore.


I must have misremembered. I wish you kept the original though.

Because "Even if this was an honest rollout mistake" this is a new addition, changes meaning quite a bit.

I disagree with what you wrote now partially (your comment on claude), but it does sound fair, and i wouldn't have written what i wrote.


it is indefensible.

They can still find a different name. Cc is not the only possible name in the names universe.

Why does any of this matter? Llm is a memory of knowledge, of course it got what it got based on prior work.

It can code enigma simulator from the algorithm. That's not really a problem. Astra will send computing to programs, LLMs are not good at computing themselves, why is this a big deal?


Stargate origins was not a great series, but talks about egypt and stargate :D

For apps with a scale, it's a long time


Because? People wait far longer for much more important things in real life.


Speed is money. Yes people wait for 9 months for having a baby, doesn't mean you should wait 9 months for an app release. That is not a sound logic.


Yes, but one week to wait for your app is nothing to complain about.


Sometime there are 0 days etc.. So, maybe you should have broader view on things instead of simple assumption.


You should want higher speed and quality of service from your vendors. In this case, apple is paid wonderfully for it.


Apple has some “trust” for vetting things, and with the wave of slop-apps it fine with a slight delay so the App Store doesn’t become riddled with slop like the android store.


Review speed and slopness are related but not exclusive to each other.


Definitely not exclusive, though I believe they are related enough to not tank one for the other. If a review is 2 seconds and done, then the circle for figuring out the mvp slop app is pretty slim.


You can imagine with the AI models we have now, many of the stuff reviewers do could be automated to a large extent. They can also determine through binary diffing that functionality changes may be limited etc. Many things can be done to eliminate majority of the queue for example.


Some stuff the reviewers do could easily be automated. I’m off the mindset everything the reviewers do shouldn’t be automated however, as llms do hallucinate and are still susceptible to ghost prompts.

At the infinite app review scale (some apps malicious, illegal, rip-offs), extra time is inevitable.


let's say you have a bug that makes your app unusable. If you can't get an update our for a week - people are going to just stop using your app.


You shouldn't have shipped that bug in the first place, I would say. If the bug comes from an Android update, I assume that developers have had access to betas long before the system update is rolled out.


Why do you think apple has point releases that fix... Bugs every time? Not necessarily new features but bugs.

Lesson in there.


Do you mean that these point releases introduce bugs that break third party software?


I decided not to engage with you. Not productive.


And you know 100% all the bugs are visible at all times.


Huh.

On the flip side, googles release infra provides much more functionality for apps that already has scale. I wish apple were more production oriented too.


pretty sure you are not the only one. At least a dozen people are looking at it, for sure.


I have a friend who came to me and said "i found a new french musician/singer that i really liked on . Her voice is really good". and a day or two later he said "god dammit, it turned out to be AI"

So yes, there'll be demand, no people won't often know it.


My list of French bands/singers I’ve explored is so far very limited, but offhand you might see if they enjoy either of the following

https://melodysechochamber.bandcamp.com/track/some-time-alon... (not in French language)

https://endlessfloods.bandcamp.com/track/rites-futurs (French language)


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