It's interesting to me how people say "someone did this before it was cheap!" as if it's a slight. I mean, yes, it's much more impressive when it was expensive, but it's good that things are cheaper.
Interestingly enough the “before it was cheap” version was distributed for free when this one is for sale for half the price of the game this is supposed to run on.
Denmark did it 10 years ago with existing open source tools and open data.
This reuses the same open source tools, the same open data, and has the gall to put up a slop website and ask for 15CHF (or worse, 48) to pay for a Claude subscription that's doing it all behind.
I think the point that might've been lost here is that Art (and this is Art) is not supposed to be about the destination but about the journey.
The whole magic of someone doing this is someone doing this.
No one did this.
And there is no utility in it either. No one needs a 1:1 scale Minecraft map of Switzerland for anything.
So the whole thing is just an empty husk of an idea implemented in a way that shows lack of understanding why this niche of content existed in the first place.
> The whole magic of someone doing this is someone doing this.
Somebody did do this. They used a tool and created something which did not previously exist.
> there is no utility in it either. No one needs a 1:1 scale Minecraft map of Switzerland for anything.
There isn't any utility for a lot of stuff but we do things for various reasons.
Is the author did this purely out of curiosity or for fun, is it bad because it wasn't done painfully.
> empty husk of an idea implemented in a way that shows lack of understanding why this niche of content existed in the first place
It's implemented that way because that is the point, to show it is possible. These kind of responses always come off as gatekeeping. Somebody created something new and it is a bad thing?
Hacker news and gatekeeping, a match made in heaven.
>out of the commons they're trying to exploit.
I feel that you may be suffering from a bit of insanity yourself. In the tragedy of the commons, the commons itself was being lessened by its usage. In this the commons still exists and is usable by everyone. You are free to take the same map and turn it into a minecraft map if you'd like. Someone just took a copy of the commons, modified it, and then offered it for sale. That sounds like the purpose of the shared commons to me.
I think you're overdoing it a bit. That's too on the nose even for a platform like HN which unfortunately is Sea-Lion heaven (as least as far as letter of the law is concerned).
>It's implemented that way because that is the point, to show it is possible
You're either incredibly naïve, or haven't realized that it is an astroturfed post by a swiss consultancy to sell more of their services. It isn't done out of "love for Switzerland". Love for the money Switzerland can make, maybe. Or, considering your entire posting history, a sealioner here to waste people's time. Either way, it's not looking good for you.
>Somebody created something new and it is a bad thing?
Indeed. I ingest food made by talented people, and when I digest it and shit it out, it's something new!
“No one did this … the whole thing is just an empty husk of an idea“
If you think it’s easy enough that “no one” made it, why not voxel-ize a location yourself to test your hypothesis? I imagine it wouldn’t take but moments of your day to fire off the prompt “Build New Jersey out of voxels”.
Based on your comment, it sounds like you believe that’s the sum total of work the author put into it.
“I'm not interested in engaging with bad faith gotcha-style communication like this.”
It’s not that, it’s an effort to get you to drop into system 2 and think about all the steps it probably took to put this together.
“Beside that, you do realize that this is merely an ad for that GIS provider consultancy thingy that can sell you actual swiss maps, right?”
Yes, I do. I’m not buying their product, selling it or in any way interested in it. I’m just pointing out that your dismissive comment about someone else’s work sucks.
“I mean judging by your career in adtech. Uh Yeah anyway.”
Case-in-point. Stay classy!
Edit: as I’m reading other replies in this thread, I’m finding that I had no idea how sophisticated tools for Minecraft are.
This could’ve been an opportunity to teach someone something cool like your sibling post did, but you opted to be a jerk instead.
Once again, the “bad faith” thing is something you’re manufacturing.
I have said nothing in bad faith, I genuinely believed you were dumping on something that a person put real work into. I was defending what I believed was someone’s hard work at the time.
You chose to interpret that in the most negative way you could and then chose express that negative interpretation by insulting me.
I suggest that you continue to examine your attitude; based on your previous result, I think you should take a few hours this time because a few seconds clearly wasn’t enough.
Picking Providence, New York on a map took two minutes to render, and I was walking around it. Paying 20 bucks gets me the whole 88km². Is it steep? Yeah, a bit. At least they get to have the excuse that it takes some actual CPU time to render because it's all on demand, but they don't have the gall to pretend that they "need it to improve the peaks".
But if you don't want to pay a single cent, feel free to download https://arnismc.com/, it'll fetch the data from OSM, terrain elevation from Tilezen, and you can get absolutely any area in the world you want. It'll cost you... The electricity and the time.
You don't even need to prompt it. cargo run --release --no-default-features -- --output-dir="C:/YOUR_PATH/.minecraft/saves" --bbox="min_lat,min_lng,max_lat,max_lng" is right there. It's a single command.
>it sounds like you believe that’s the sum total of work the author put into it.
It _is_ the sum total of work the author put into it. Prism Launcher (https://prismlauncher.org/) handles the modding part of it. OptiFine makes it playable. Cubic Chunks removes the height limit. Can't be arsed to download 1GB of test data, but arnis or equivalent open source software is used to voxelize it. Leeching off of free work, through and through.
Also the "author" is trying to pass this off as a small, funny little independent artist stuff, when the company behind it quite literally sells 3D prints of the same areas of Switzerland. The entire goal is to be a profiteer, a leech. Literally a dropshipper.
Remember when a huge portion of the internet was pirating music because it was expensive and difficult to buy. Then do you remember when a few streaming services came along offering most music and most people stopped pirating it? Because I do.
Saving people a little bit of time and making it easy is how you become a billionaire.
I actually had GLM 5.3 run against the site on the day, but it was around 2 am and I was pretty sleepy by 3. GLM found the memory overflow vulnerability but I stopped it before it could continue into retrieving something useful from it.
In retrospect, I should have just given it a /goal and let it run overnight.
If anything it needs more light to force the camera to turn down the exposure because the LEDs on the keys are bright. Almost all indoor home videos, youtube or zoom, could be improved by more light.
Does anyone else think it's odd that he had all these rare cards in mint condition and just... forgot about them? If you care enough to get complete sets of rare cards, how do you not care enough to know what you have?
This isn't the usual "I have some old cards but they're all trash" story every one of us has had at some point.
What is the point of this "no true Scotsman" comment, exactly? To defend Vucic? Or to say that what the people managed to do wasn't very hard because they managed to do it?
Yep, I did too. I'm 43, my cholesterol wasn't super high, but I figured, why not. Went to the cardiologist, he said "yeah, sure", did the blood tests, no side effects at all. My cholesterol now is what it was when I was 18.
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