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> The reality is that humans are far cheaper than robots in most real world situations.

Do you expect this to be true indefinitely? Robot production scaling has barely started.


Outside of factory type situations? Yes.

The world is vastly messier than engineers like to assume, and every real world trial I’ve seen requires massive human babysitting of a robot by humans for it to last any length of time or be useful at all.

And we’re not talking about AI type stuff, but corrosion, terrible field conditions causing sensor issues (mud, sap, dirt/dust), power management issues, communication disruption due to terrain, enemy action, etc.


This test implies that phantasiacs immediately lock down the full visual fidelity (the orientation of the die), before you specified it. Why would they? I find myself capable of imagining the die in superposition, same as I don't imagine any particular color it has or any surface it may rest on.


It need only require the phantasiac to lock down the die on request.


The people "consented" to this when they clicked OK on the user agreement.


Ironically, defense by obscurity may be the way to go here.

Fork Anubis. Slightly modify the hash function it computes. Deploy. Do not try to make your fork widely adopted. Do not even publish it.

You've just defeated ASICs and any craweler that's special-cased Anubis (currently all of them). If enough people do this, the only recourse they will have is either genuinely executing served js code like a real user or building some unholy pipeline that uses ai agents to compile it to a GPU kernel for every host.


> Fork Anubis. Slightly modify the hash function it computes. Deploy. Do not try to make your fork widely adopted. Do not even publish it.

A more robust solution would be to keep a few patches handy with different versions of the algorithm, and rotate which one is in use. This would keep the crawlers on their toes if they wise up to the changed algorithm. One could even imagine automatically rotating witch algorithm to use on a weekly basis.


Render page in headless browser with JS, cache challenge solution, re-use on all your non-browser requests. Won't really change anything and it will auto-adapt to any new challenge that is being thrown.


It's not reusable from a different IP.


I was thinking about this. Would it be possible for Anubis to have a code gen process that would make every deployment of itself sufficiently unique such that it's "annoying" to work around?

I do wonder about the premise as well: are people special casing for Anubis?


It's not really defense by obscurity (the JavaScript is public), more like defense by... being different?


Snowflake defense


It doesn't matter what the hash is if it is inherently cheaper for a bot farm to compute the hashes than it is for a human to do it on their device. The human pays a greater cost in annoyance, wasted time, battery, and that means the PoW has failed its function. The bot farm owner does not care.


it'll load the cookie, make one request, move to a different ip, load the cookie, make one request, move to a different ip, ...


If you are discovering urls you have to wait for a previous request to finish. The rate limit should work. Requests without a cookie wait 2 seconds. Request with cookies can only make human scale number of requests per second? (1?)

If you have a thousands of IP addresses, and you know all the urls you want to request in advance, you can just request them all simultaneously I guess.

The next more advanced version is that URLs are unique to your cookie.

Users can't share urls anymore, but it might be a tradeoff worth making. Unique urls for each user.

You could probably still make this work, if you share your url with another user, they get the page, but heavily rate limited like a regular no cookie request. (a cookie url mismatch gets the rate limited version of the page)


Why are you serving new cookies to someone who already has a cookie?


It discards the cookie after one request and appears as a new user.


That implies it is specifically written for your specific website


How so?


Why else would a thing be programmed to drop cookies after every seconds request?


Maybe I misunderstand what you mean by "load the cookie". What is it if not Set-Cookie header with redirect status? That doesn't seem particularly special to me.


You don't just redirect, you sleep 2 seconds, then respond with a redirect.


Set-Cookie header, 200 status and a JavaScript redirect? Many ways. Set-Cookie on pages that load quickly and check it on pages that load slowly?


What happens when a user without the cookie GETs a slow page? Does he get redirected to fast one to and back?


> dictionary based compression

That corresponds to PCFG models.


The first LZ-step pretty much directly maps to BPE tokenization in LLMs.


If doesn't correspond cleanly. I can see why you draw the link, because LZ compression will replace words with symbols but BPE is a non-contextual entropy encoding while LZ is contextual and adaptive and that makes it very different. I think BPE actually has more in common with Huffman encoding.


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