unwittingly said 'yaaay' when I saw the Sonnet 5.5 entry. lol I love Sonnet so much. Loved it since 3.5 and never really liked Opus even when I tried to use it for technical work. Once we had two back to back anthropic releases neither of which was a Sonnet upgrade from 4.5 (4.6?) and I was getting kinda sad that they're considering discontinuing it. These are weird reactions I'm having to these tools even when I mostly use them for technical work considering I prefer talking to GPT and Gemini is just a blunt, very powerful hammer.
Machines eliminate drudgery, freeing up time for better, more important things and doing things efficiently creates abundance. Simplicity is romanticised, I'd like to let things that can do themselves go do themselves allowing me more time for the fun parts. That's not to say 'turn off your brain' but backbreaking and mind numbing work isn't fun or noble. Whoever's doing it would rather not do it or has the option to NOT do it but chooses to. Those aren't the same thing.
Hate the fact that when someone dreams up an article such as this [nasty word] where the central premise is that, '[SW engineering constraint] is no longer an issue anymore'... it's always because the solution is to turn off your brain and ask the LLM. It's almost similar to, 'because computers have gotten faster and memory's cheaper, we can write [nasty word] software' but this time it's, 'proper code architecture don't matter anyway because ain't gonna read it'.
Jesus! I am very certain, without evidence, that even LLMs have an upper bound for the shittiest, most warped code even they can understand and explain. How sad is it that we're going from 'this engineering constraint has been solved' to 'that's [LLM provider]'s problem'. There is a finite amount of context, a finite amount of signal that can be extracted from that context, and a finite amount of inferential reliability. Give the freaking chatbot a bizzare enough monstrosity and eventually the model's explanation becomes an increasingly plausible reconstruction rather than a reliable model of the program. This is the goddamned wall these damned idiots are about to run into... Taking on debt, pushing architecture in the OPPOSITE direction of human understanding AND banking on a neutral-at-best external entity to keep doing YOUR job for (essentially) free! And what's crazy is that I'm the absolute furthest thing from an Ai-hater AND I'm a 23yo JUNIOR PROGRAMMER but these sentiments are getting ridiculous asf on both ends of the AI preference spectrum.
Couldn't agree more. I think/hope the take of OP will be in the minority, but worried that a standardized language will arise that is optimized for AI (and thus not for humans). These AI proxy people are actively working on cutting humans out of the loop, to a point where we once we start to rely on AI there is no way back; mimicking the advent of the car in America: first it was a nice optional extra but now in many places in America you can't get around without one.
sometimes, I really do wonder if 'slop' slingers like yourself are just rage baiting. Are yu rage baiting? Or this is just an excuse for not being able to read without pictures?
Thank you for stepping in to respond to the comments that try, in every possible way, to belittle the little work we’ve done. When I see comments like @yoggies_bro’s, I’d rather not even bother responding, because that would be giving them any attention at all.
Not to be critical but I clicked thru to another article, 'Ai makes sitting with discomfort shameful' and I still don't get it. I don't understand the need to cry about a completely optional tech. Especially when, if yu love it so much and are forced to use it at work, yu can just ionno use it whenever else you have more control over your own agency? Coding and learning is hard but now they both got easier. What's all the romanticising the grit around programming when yu can very optional still go eat granite of that's what you're into. Really, it's beginning to feel like, 'turn on your camera with tears in your eyes and talk about how you're crying'
No offence truly but crying over 'optional' is weird
Not sure how you're missing it. He's making a distinction between the concept of a Project and a Product. I agree with the distinction and he seems to be saying that the author has the wrong concept of what a product is but to answer your parent comment is saying that there's no difference between a vibe coded thing and a 'real' product so long as there has been some satisfactory transfer of agency and an exchange between user and product creator at any scale. So he's essentially saying that the author may be conflating vibe coded PROJECT (with a vibe coded PRODUCT) and that if so comparing a vibe coded PROJECT with any 'real' (whatever that means) product is an unfair comparison and on the flip side if they're comparing vive coded PRODUCT with a real PRODUCT then they're one and the same thing from the perspective that there was an transfer of agency and utility has been exchanged between user and product creator. I happen to agree with parent comment. It's an airtight argument that it doesn't matter how yu made it. The distinction between vibe coded and 'real' product is fuzzy at best. The real distinction lies between a PROJECT and a PRODUCT.
Absolutely ABSOLUTELY love the idea and the first thought I had was Virtual Desktops! If that's a correct way to think about it then I can absolutely see myself using each tile (Desktop/Monitor to me) to contain a single thread of work.
I don't use agents at all and I think that building agent/Ai-first is gonna push away people like me (who don't want to deal with agents or any related concept or even git tbh). I'd genuinely say generalise into a Virtual Desktop typer thing.
In your blog, you mentioned that each tile is sorta like a computer (sandbox?) in itself actually containing AND running the work. That's brilliant! Now, if you could make it possible that one single tile could fill the entire screen, like a typical desktop view, on demand. Incase I just want absolute focus on one thing (I'm not always looking across all three monitors) and not be in 'Canvas mode' seeing all my Virtual Desktops.
I could also see myself working across three (or more) tiles where I've got docs in chrome, vs-code open in another and something else (more docs? Terminal? Doesn't matter). Fact is that the infinite canvas literally replaces me having to buy two - three monitors to get the same feel. I could now buy a single large curved one and have infinite monitors.
I had an inkling of this feeling when I saw Omarchy (A tile-based Linux distro from Basecamp / 37signals). What I thought was missing was infinite-ness and a little spatial something? I actually literally thought, what if those tiles didn't squish together like that and the BG were a 2D infinite canvas?
If you pull this off just right and actually focus on getting the desktop version right first (I believe that's where your users are), I believe you may have stumbled onto a different kind of operating system paradigm for a workflow issue we try to solve with even more physical monitors.
I never shut off my PC so I can imagine long lived virtual monitors wayyy off in the canvas ether with all that work still open and waiting until I'm ready for that frame of mind.
I don't have anything to say about the disappearing message except that it's cool as a way to ping or get someone's attention but a dedicated chat box? window? Just a little foldable flourish in the bottom left or right corner so yu can directly 'chat' with someone persistently who's in your space (or you're in theirs) is way more healthy for a serendipity than a disappearing message where it's kinda like an implicit race condition and loses the asynchronous nature of letting me consider a text before I reply especially in work settings. I'd also not want to give access to my entire canvas ether as opposed to selectively allowing access to specific virtual desktop lol
As for 3D? Meh I don't know. Don't need that but other people may like it. I'm just approaching this from a workflow angle. Love the whimsy regardless.
I absolutely want this, I would absolutely pay for this, I think this is a great product in the Figma range and I absolutely wish you all the best of luck because this is awesome. Just focus on the operating system /workflow angle for a desktop use-case first. I couldn't try it (don't have a Mac) but I got the idea from the video.
Good luck, guys! And ykw? I wonder if I could fork around with Omarchy and give it infinite canvas since it's already 95% there. Never mind the social feature or 3D graphics yet.
Hey, author here. Thanks for the feedback! The goal definitely is to focus on the core. I mentioned this in the video, I like to think of this as a (multiplayer) work sandbox. I'm really curious about all the different workflows people have/ could build.
