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Were any LLMs used in creating the list itself? Be it for its design, implementation or data gathering?

Yes, for good or bad, the entire project itself is vibe coded. I'm only reviewing the ban list manually to ensure correctness. My main question was how large the trend is, and how it looks like.

You at least have a PIN on top of thatm right? Right?

I can say the same about any opinion of an LLM 'programmer'

No, now you are running an IDE that is badly pretending not to be a browser, while an entire second application has to work in the background eating even more RAM to provide you with access to documentation for each function at the cursor...

I mean, you could go write up an IDE that acts like that old one in a few weeks now. Could use a ton less RAM. You'll be the only person using it while everyone else uses the browser for convenience.

You don’t even need to do that, there are plenty of IDEs that are lightweight and not web-based.

There’s just no reason to be mad that something is popular. Sure, VSCode is the most popular, if that person doesn’t like it they should just use something else.


I'm not mad that VScode is popular. I am mad at people that are not appalled by the resource use of vscode and clones, by the sluggish UI, by the abysmal security (with the latest example being the multi-billion bitcoin theft), by the walled garden that allowed a backdoored extension despite its very stated purpose... You know, all factors that a competent programmer would find important when making a choice of tools...

I’m not appalled by it because the resource use is “free.”

I already have 32GB of RAM plus an M2 Max in my laptop because my company issued it to me. I already have 32GB of RAM and a 9850X3D in my desktop because I play games.

What non-ideological motivation do I have to ration computing resources on my IDE? Even if I had an 8GB MacBook Neo, VSCode would run fine.

If I was coding on a raspberry pi my story would change (although I suspect VSCode would run fine on that, too), but I’m not so I don’t care. It’s fast enough to get the job done and the rich featureset is more important than raw performance.


>What non-ideological motivation do I have to ration computing resources on my IDE?

I feel gross explaining this.

If we both have the same exact machine, but I choose to use software that uses substantially less resources -- well -- then I get to run more of that software simultaneously.

if you use computers as some big single-tasked typewriter equivalent then yeah, who cares.

it's not all fucking style and ideology, sometimes behaviors have a decent concrete reasoning.


I don’t see a lot of Photoshop or Premiere Pro users giving up the complexity and functionality of their programs just to save on memory allocation. They aren’t saying “I’d rather use iMovie for iPad and MSPaint because it uses less RAM.”

Heavier IDEs like VSCode are making a very well-defined tradeoff between resource efficiency and functionality.

The fact that it is web-based makes extensions and design iterations more easy, and it allows it to run on more platforms including web browsers. In my opinion that is a very obviously intentional design decision.


Two things.

One: A very many programmers have their tools selected by their jobs, not their own choices.

Two: There are very few competent programmers.


I presume Dropbear, thus musl-based OpenWrt routers are also not affected? Not that Dropbear has been an example in that regard.

There is this write-up/fancy page from the person who found the vulnerability[0] (HN discussion[1], how I found this thread).

At the bottom of that it says dropbear is unaffected.

> on debian, ubuntu, fedora or anything else with glibc? going through pam? dropbear? openbsd? you're fine

[0] https://sshhole.com/

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50378228


No, the majority should not be affected.

Except in the case where their images are built with OpenSSH instead of Dropbear, which is the case for some manufacturers. (Turris, was noted as one such vendor)


Since after you posted, various people in the thread have reported dropbear is not affected

That was always the issue... Rewrites were done before LLMs and the results were the same... There was never a point in time where the bottleneck was production of code, it was always review, testing, QA, fixing bugs and edge cases, and that is when only focusing on the technical part of delivery, and leaving out communication and synchronisation within the company and between company and clients...

Sometime in the last 15 years we got these huge backlog wishlists of one line thoughts. People were convinced because software devs couldn't keep up translating one line thoughts into working software that the code must be the bottleneck

They never realized how much effort went into turning those one like tickets into code was, and the code was the least part of the effort


That strongly depends on context. In larger organisations, this is definitely the case. For smaller startups and teams then the overhead is much smaller and the actual core programming work is much more of a bottleneck.

The article tells me more about the dangers of overtraining at an advanced age than the usefulness of wearables. The wearable was useful for the researchers after the person had already passed away.

Also, considering the number of such workouts he completed and the fact that it seems he was aware of his deteriorating heart, he carried on? Even despite reported fatigue? Mad respect for his determination.


If you look at supplemental table S6 (which is admittedly inconvenient because it's a separately downloaded MS Word document) you get this:

S6. Summary of indoor cycling (Peloton) workouts by year (2018–2025)

  2018 (age 70): 11 workouts, 20 min, 171 watts
  2020 (age 71): 14 workouts, 60 min, 175 watts
  2021 (age 72): 140 workouts, 30 min, 177 watts
  2022 (age 73): 164 workouts, 20 min, 167 watts
  2023 (age 74): 73 workouts, 30 min, 187 watts
  2024 (age 75): 59 workouts, 45 min, 165 watts
  2025 (to march): 69 workouts, 30 min, 165 watts
In 2021-2022 the patient was doing 2-3 workouts a week on a stationary bicycle. And 177 watts for 30 minutes is solid, at age 72.

Going up to 5-6 workouts per week is a step up, but this wasn't an inexperienced rider. And who knows how much outdoor cycling they did, which the Peloton wouldn't have recorded?


76 (already a good age) with an existing heart condition and increases HIIT exercise frequency by 25%.

I wonder if they consulted their physician before doing that, and what they recommended?


My (35) physician explicitly advised me against my 8-10 hour road cycling sessions pointing out changes in the heart wall thickness he was already able to observe.

I am tired of the fact that even my hobbies have now been taken over by LLM-wielding imbeciles. Nothing better than going through LLM output your whole work day only to tune in to your favourite community after work to see an absolute idiot throw a slop grenade and refuse to accept that the LLM served him bullshit...

It feels a lot of reddit comments (but also here on HN) are AI generated. It would be helpful to see a kind of marking of probability a comment is generated.

Reddit as a platform is completely dead at this point. It’s nothing like it once was.

> His ultimate message for the team was to “stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

What more is there to say?


The real kicker is that he sees any thorough human review of security critical code - even if that code is 100% AI generated - as "handcrafting code".

You just can't trust software being developed under such a man's leadership to be secure. It's a fatal mark against their raison d'etre.


Oh no, AI boosters are completely fine with firing devs as well


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