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They sell "give us more power, we'll protect you" well

You omitted the part in the diary entry about shooting up sheriff’s office

You're missing the part where it's a diary entry, so the actual content is irrelevant. Her only mistake was not realizing that her diary wasn't private.

Because it's not relevant. They're not charging her with conspiracy, which is what they would do if she'd actually done anything concrete towards making that happen. She didn't email it, or text it, or post it on Facebook or Twitter or Discord or a message board, which is what this law is clearly about.

It’s clear that they knew about the extent of the issue weeks earlier and tried to contain it, rather than letting the world know

I agree it's clear they knew something was up and tried to control information getting out.

But that's not at all enough evidence that they knew about the extent of the issue. Such institutions reflexively try to control information flow whether they themselves know what's going on or not.


Thanks to the border actually not being wide open due to Trump, all violent crime is down across the US

Delusional.

And the 2nd amendment to protect the 1st


Can bet they won’t


That doesn’t explain the decline of German automotive industry which is now taken over by Chinese cars thanks to massive subsidies by the Chinese government


Why? Germany is also run by lawyers.

See eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Merz#Private_sector_... for the current chancellor. Many past chancellors were also lawyers, and many members of the Bundestag were and are lawyers.

I don't know whether having lawyers in power leads to industrial decline. My point is only that you can't use Germany as a counterexample.


Do we consider the US Chips Act to be a subsidy? What about when GM became Government Motors because it was Too Big To Fail?

In other words, when do economic and industrial policies transition to subsidies? Is it a matter of perspective? Is the devil in the details?


It's a matter of scale: https://www.wsj.com/world/china/the-u-s-has-been-spending-bi...

If you trust Google's AI summary, China spends 4-5% of GDP on industrial subsidies, vs US at 0.4%. 10-12x as much.


It’s not a reasonable comparison. In China, every corporation is de facto state run. The Party is in the boardroom and the executives are members of the Party. The CCP will build entire mega cities or pump money into this industry or that according to their plan. China isn't a "state-run" economy but a conditional-autonomy one. Private firms operate freely until they collide with Party priorities. Then the state wins decisively and without due process.


What about after accounting for PPP? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity)

Do the US numbers account for state level incentives like tax breaks?

I for one do not trust Google summaries, having seen too many hallucinations, it has pushed me away from their search and ai completely.


Here are some links I found (among many). I tend to trust CSIS, even though the have many hawks, they are generally thorough and nuanced.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/red-ink-estimating-chinese-ind...

Some historical analyses of US policies (know less, but both put it over 1% currently, nuances)

https://www.columbia.edu/~ev2124/research/ErtenStiglitzVerho...

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w34744/w347...

I'm honestly not sure why this is seen so negatively. It seems to be working pretty well for them, perhaps we should do similar instead of whining about others being more effective?


Another point of comparison we might make, how close is Trump's desired increase to the US Defense budget to what China is spending on industrial subsidies? It looks relatively close to numbers in these research papers.

It would seem that $0.5T could be better spent


Catching rockets on landing for one, and making made electric cars actually popular & desirable. Man either the jealousy or hate on Elon is on another level on HackerNews


Those aren't recent. Electric cars were popular 15 years ago. There are now multiple groups with reusable rockets. Elon doesn't need to work 12 hours/day on things his employees have already built.


> Electric cars were popular 15 years ago

I can't believe the rewriting of history on this topic. They were definitely not popular. The Model S had just been released 14 years ago. They were not popular. Tesla transformed the world in terms of rolling out electric cars.

> There are now multiple groups with reusable rockets

Not really, and nowhere near the same operational experience. They are still figuring out Starship. They're deploying new types of Starlink satellites.

This is an utterly insane thesis.


My point was that the work to make them popular was done back then. The model s is what made Tesla cool to the public and made people want electric cars. Since then there have been some improvements to the car like better FSD, but no huge technical leaps.

The things you're talking about aren't things Elon is likely spending his days on. He has teams of people marketing Tesla and working on improving starship. Do you think Elon is actually handing design himself vs sitting in a bunch of meetings and giving feedback?

If he isn't doing the hands-on work, so you think he's in 18hrs of meetings each day?


I'm struggling to make out what your point is, other than to agree that electric cars definitely weren't popular back then until Elon Musk and Tesla made them so through solving a lot of difficult engineering, regulatory and financial challenges.

However I can answer your first question: I've no idea what Elon Musk does, but obviously he has a lot of very very bright people working for him. Just as how Bill Gates wouldn't write specs but he would critique them in detail[0] to make sure that the right things were being built. Whether or not that's "sitting in meetings" or "handling design himself" who knows, because I don't know what "handling design" means, and why it wouldn't involve meetings.

[0] https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2006/06/16/my-first-billg-rev...


Tell China and India to stop building coal plants first, and also ban private jets, and then we can talk.


Taxing carbon will affect everything, including private jets, and China is doing more for solar power than any other place in the world and they're also investing heavily in renewables and nuclear.

In any case, the solution to other countries not doing their parts is figuring out ways to incentivise and coordinate better outcomes, not giving up completely, giving up only makes sense if someone is in denial regarding the consequences.


Like the greens in Germany who decided it's best to shut down nuclear power plants?


It's eerie how often this lie gets repeated here.

It wasn't the Greens that decided this for Germany. It was our conservatives, the CDU/CSU. The latter had high-ranking officials literally threaten to step down, unless Germany exits nuclear energy production.


The greens could have stopped it, especially after the invasion started, but they did it anyway.

Ideology > common sense.


How? Most of the power plants had already been decommissioned! The CDU had years and years to stop it. The Greens only had the option to prolong the lifetime of the last power plants, which they did.

Ideology > critical thinking


What does this have to do with being a fat, dumb, greedy asshole with no brains?


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