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Nobody should be punished for working more than 8 hours a day 5 days a week either.

When has this ever occurred?

> They want to maximize their paychecks and bonuses in the short term before they leave to other companies.

You could say that about pretty much any employee - and you'd be completely wrong. What makes you right in the case of CEOs and boards?


> You could say that about pretty much any employee - and you'd be completely wrong. What makes you right in the case of CEOs and boards?

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/30/us-ceo-pay-grew-20-times-fas...


> this time its actually different

The older I get the more time I heard this. Never actually true. But always used by somebody asking for power, to protect me - of course.


There has never been a technology with the promise of obviating both knowledge and physical based labor before. Now there is. Sorry, but this is unprecedented. The hubris to imagine all will just be swell is astounding to me.


Greg Egan's Diaspora is one of the best explorations I know for the fates of various humanity factions in the age following a technological singularity.


I know his work well. Greg and I went to UWA together and were members of UNISFA.

I love Diaspora.


Last time I checked building companies that offer goods and services was considered good for society.

I actually lived in a society where this was illegal and we were all starving and freezing.


You can say all that about pretty much any technological advancement, like the computer itself. Heck, people said it about the invention of writing or the printing press!

However, looking back, each single invention was a net positive for us as a species.


What exactly do you think should be the motivator for people working in healthcare then? For companies creating healthcare products and services? For investors pouring money into health care research? The goodness of their hearts?


Most people's definition of rich is "one dollar more than I have". Just look at laptop class's hate on the 1 percenters - which actually includes them.


What is "laptop class"?


Information workers. Anyone whose whole job can be done from a laptop... They're among the most privileged workers in the world.


> I would fund a DRAM maker in Europe.

I wouldn't. I can think of at least 10 regulations (labor and environmental chef amongst them) that would render such a maker uncompetitive from the start. Chinese makers would eat its lunch.


We used to have some. Also, regarding labor, that part boggles the mind. Aren't those factories supposed to be highly automated?

Also, at this point DRAM availability is becoming a security risk.


Doesn't matter, we need to opt out of the rat race that consists of making the planet worse for the next generations in exchange of quick bucks for the oligarchs.

The way is to factor externalities in the final price, reward sustainable behaviour and set better standards. And that's what's going on: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/12/how-europes-new-...

The same applies to labour conditions and quality standards. And don't bring up arguments like "it can't work" or "that hurt competitiveness": all workers around the world want the exact same thing, a livable planet for their children. The only ones to object are the global elite who one ends up defending when they make the current status quo sound inevitable.


> all workers around the world want the exact same thing, a livable planet for their children

Actually, they don't. First of all they want livable conditions for themselves. Ecologism is a hobby for people with full bellies.

I remember during communism which failed to even feed and clothe us - but The Party kept telling us that we were actually winning and we were so morally superior to those "corrupt capitalists". This is what happens when ideological justifications replace rational thought.


> Ecologism is a hobby for people with full bellies.

Almost the entire planet where this debate is raging, is the part of the planet where people have full bellies. On average, too full, even.

Ecologism is also a hobby for people that don't want their kids to starve, as people living in Mesopotamia around the time of Akkad, or people around the Sea of Aral starting in the 1980s have discovered.


> Almost the entire planet where this debate is raging, is the part of the planet where people have full bellies.

Exactly. And most of the pollution happens in the other part.

We’re crippling our economies and render our companies uncompetitive to merely export environmental effects around, while pushing our voter base to the extremes.

All for naught too, because when the orc armies come (attracted by our weakness to even defend ourselves) they will do the the environment what they did in Ukraine…


> And most of the pollution happens in the other part.

Where does it happen exactly?

> All for naught too, because when the orc armies come (attracted by our weakness to even defend ourselves) they will do the the environment what they did in Ukraine…

Who are the orcs here? Russia? Europe is rearming like it's the 1980s.


> Ecologism is a hobby for people with full bellies.

Then it's a good thing that Chinese bellies are satisfied, we can get to those existential problems, now.


Maybe you should get that list from the European AI products that came from those awesome EU regulations.


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