It's worse to call out racism than it is be racist. This is American politics today in a nutshell. Your turn.

The reply was to this:

"The idea that illegal immigrants need to be deported comes from a view that those jobs should go to American citizens or from a view that browns don't belong in the USA"

Calling everybody a racist who wants laws enforced is weak. Immigration laws are made necessary by a welfare state I happen to not support. The conversation has literally nothing to with race or racism. We're talking about the laws that govern the country and whether we should enforce or ignore them.

What do you think? Do you have any profound insight or ideas to share?

I don't hate Tesla either. I'm actually a bit disappointed knowing that I will never consider buying one for the rest of my life.

> That's outside America's scope

We know, we know.

Project Farm (https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectFarm).

Came here to say this

For the same reason that you could tell a joke without feeling the need to explain it.

I imagine that some?/many? customers of a locally-owned coffee shop are choosing it precisely because it's not a soulless megacorp. They're choosing a different vibe on purpose. Ugly AI advertising is the opposite of that vibe.

True, in the sense that right wing extremists apparently have no agency and no responsibility for their actions or beliefs.

I was thinking more that Nazi's rounded up and gassed a million Jews. So I'm not in a forgiving mood if you're making joking comparisons or trying to be cute.

They did that in the end. In the decade leading up to the final solution they engaged in a lot of shenanigans that have already been replicated by maga.

Many governments engage in "shenanigans". One of the biggest mass deportations in US history was directed by Eisenhower, the same guy who beat the Nazis. Switzerland just recently considered a more severe halt to immigration than anything contemplated by the US.

> One of the biggest mass deportations in US history was directed by Eisenhower

About a quarter of a million, hardly the biggest .. and importantly this was at the request of the Mexican Government who wanted many of the Mexican workers who entered the USofA to be returned to work in Mexico.

Despite the derogatory name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback was a attempt to appease the Mexican Government and get their continued support to provide "legal" Mexican labour to the USofA.

Eisenhower did not gas Jews. Please fuck off with your weak ass what about Eisenhower bullshit.

I know you think you're being cute but some of us had grandparents that had to flee that shit and do not find quite so hilarious as you and your mates.

I think you and I are on the same page? I'm trying to push back on the handwavey Nazi analogies by pointing out that garden-variety "shenanigans" are not necessarily rare, i.e. the Nazi/Trump comparisons are not necessarily valid.

To be intellectually honest, please name a few open communists infiltrating the other party.

It's ok to keep our personal problems to ourselves.

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