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I have a theory that the prevalence of gambling, trading, and investing is a natural response to wealth inequality and automation. Wealth has always correlated with risk (e.g. business ownership) but as the prospects for wealth diminish, the amount of risk people are willing (forced?) to take on grows.

An optimistic view could be that in a future where AI drives most of GDP and UBI covers basic needs, well-regulated betting marketplaces could provide an opportunity for people to get ahead (or at least do something) for example by developing algorithms and AIs that do rigorous backtesting and apply institutional-grade risk management strategies.

The pessimistic view is that these marketplaces are just another cause of wealth inequality, they will always extract more wealth than they generate, and there is no place for them in a balanced, healthy economy.


> I have a theory that the prevalence of gambling, trading, and investing is a natural response to wealth inequality and automation. Wealth has always correlated with risk (e.g. business ownership) but as the prospects for wealth diminish, the amount of risk people are willing (forced?) to take on grows.

There was a NY Times article a while back that talked about why Gen Z is so into gambling: they feel the system is so rigged against them that traditional strategies to get safety and security (e.g. get a good job, save, buy a house, etc.) don't work anymore. So they either give up (and focus on short-term consumption) or throw their money at long shots like gambling and crypto, hoping for a jackpot.

> The pessimistic view is that these marketplaces are just another cause of wealth inequality, they will always extract more wealth than they generate, and there is no place for them in a balanced, healthy economy.

That is the truth. They don't generate any wealth, they exist to take a cut on people transferring money unproductively.


This article seems relevant:

Economic Nihilism in Card Games https://mtg.cardsrealm.com/en-us/articles/economic-nihilism-...


The optimistic view where everyone is poor, on UBI, and forced to gamble as an opportunity to get ahead since they can't get jobs anymore.

> I have a theory

No, you don’t. You have a hypothesis.

And since it’s based in social psychology, it’s empirically unfalsifiable, so it can honestly never be a theory at all.

Good day.


> I have a theory

No need to be abstract and theoretical about it; it's how the trickle down economy works.

Boomers and GenX are the ones foisting that reality on them; GenZ is pushing the buttons supply side is providing

Stop talking in vague abstractions. We know this is 100% top down driven self selected interpretations of historical documents by the elders in charge of political interpretations


Whoa. With a lidar scan of my house, a drone-captured point cloud of my neighborhood, and a backup of my icloud, I could create an immersive 3D snapshot of my life. And then what if other people did the same and we networked them together, so that we can actually interact in the snapshot. It'd be like second life except actually cloned from real lives. weird


You could pitch the idea to Zuck, see if he wants to burn $100b to try it out.


No please. Not again.


It seems we will be having gaussian-splatted 3D world soon.

eg. https://www.nianticspatial.com/products/capture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-S-x0b9TrE


Why not, it's big tech money, at least share it with the poor.


I had a thought the other day that you could probably divide up the world into cubic miles and with a few thousand codex subscriptions make a high fidelity blender model of the entire world based on google maps, street view, and tagged location photos.

What would you do with a whole model of the world? I don't know, but it would be fun to walk a national park while I'm on the treadmill or basejump off of a realistic el capitan.


…In that Empire, the Art of Cartography attained such Perfection that the map of a single Province occupied the entirety of a City, and the map of the Empire, the entirety of a Province. In time, those Unconscionable Maps no longer satisfied, and the Cartographers Guilds struck a Map of the Empire whose size was that of the Empire, and which coincided point for point with it. The following Generations, who were not so fond of the Study of Cartography as their Forebears had been, saw that that vast Map was Useless, and not without some Pitilessness was it, that they delivered it up to the Inclemencies of Sun and Winters. In the Deserts of the West, still today, there are Tattered Ruins of that Map, inhabited by Animals and Beggars; in all the Land there is no other Relic of the Disciplines of Geography.

(Borges)


Microsoft has done that to some extent with Flight Simulator using older machine learning techniques. Wouldn't call most of the world high fidelity yet but I'm sure they could get there with generative AI models. I'm also sure the anti-AI screeching in the gaming community would be heard for miles.

Would also make a great Zwift competitor (cycling app where you can hook up your stationary bike and race or ride on certain routes).


Microsoft Flight Simulator’s world map covers the entire Earth at approximately 1:1 scale: about 510 million square kilometres of surface, including roughly 149 million km² of land

Ref: https://flyawaysimulation.com/ask/answers/microsoft-flight-s...


I think they cheat somewhat with the ocean when far from labdy


It's impossible not to; We don't even have high resolution depth maps of the entire ocean.


In that case generative AI could be defended as a privacy preserving measure, I guess.


I love doing flybys of my house in MSFS


Pretty sure I've seen experiments to do this using a combination of AI and traditional photogrammetry.


Bro just go outside


no sorry have to keep in touch with agents


Who else is gonna type “just implement it” or press enter repeatedly


And then you realize how boring it is.


That is exactly the idea of some minecraft projects: Mapping the entire world into minecraft.


At the very least I would love a driving simulation based on that data. That way I can practice driving in weird neighborhoods without the stress


If only google could use their AI to generate a wiremesh model out of their google maps streetview data, and make it public. And then another model to generate texture.


This is the core concept behind the Black Mirror episode "Be Right Back" (201).

Like most early-season episodes, it's incredibly depressing but absolutely worth watching. And honestly, I wouldn't mind if AI researchers were forced to watch it (along with The Animatrix).


I mean Second Life has been around since 2003... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life

I wasted a lot of hours in it when I was a teen.


Yeah I was thinking something similar -- overall it's easy to conflate government, society, community, and lifestyle (urban, rural, off-grid). There are also different reasons people live off-grid; it can be primarily a financial decision. It can also be an extremely engaged social decision, in the sense that some people want to be part of a society that is less oriented around resource extraction, commercialization, industrialization, etc -- and they are becoming the change they want to see. In any case, solipsistic isn't the right word.


I thought this was going to be a guide to surviving by rabbit farming.


The whole point of this product from Cloudflare is to let LLMs "top up" their corpus of knowledge with up-to-the-minute search results after they have been trained on the contents of the entire Internet. The idea that courts would enforce intellectual property rights on little upstarts trying to make LLM wrappers without enforcing any TOS affecting the massive training scrapers is ridiculous. Probably true, but logically unjustifiable.


I'm a bit frustrated by what seems to be a widespread strong negative reaction to anti-AI fonts. The accessibility problem is real, but I feel like that's a reason to push the investigation deeper for solutions to that problem, not a reason to abandon the effort entirely. The largest intellectual property infringement in the history of the universe is actively unfolding, and it's resulting in an existentially threatening transfer of wealth and power. That's a problem worth exploring every solution for, and solving it may entail some serious sacrifices.


It's simply that a font won't solve anything. That concept is worst than security by obscurity, as it causes more problem and add more constraints than what it solves... for a very limited time until AI bots are adjusted to decode those fonts properly.


how can you make such a bold claim so early with 0 evidence? A successful (and much more realistic outcome) could be to make a font that is financially infeasible for LLMs to parse but easy for humans.


Yeah, that worked really well for captchas. Now even simple models far surpass humans at recognition.

So there’s plenty of evidence.

Now provide evidence it’s technically possible to make any font “ that is financially infeasible for LLMs to parse but easy for humans.”


Broadly, by reasoning from general principles, and applying a confidence level.

I suppose Uberzi has a confidence level in their claim, but it's tedious to hedge every damn thing.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_adversarial_network

Every half assed means of trying to confuse an AI is just a small bit of learning away from making the AI better than you.

Worse when you have people with disabilities, which I seem to be this week, you just make doing things a pain in the ass.

What I don't get is people like you think there is a solution to this. There is not. The harder you try you either exclude more actual humans or you align the AI closer to how people actually see.


Yeah let's not forget that in those brief few days when Sam Altman was fired, Satya Nadella swooped in and hired him. Despite the failure of that move, Microsoft has invested $13 billion directly into OpenAI, and has spent $100 billion on the partnership. No sympathy from me watching their software crumble as a result.


They have also been pushing people very hard to use the slop generators, including through GitHub.


Does everyone want AI?


Single data point; no, I don't. I preferred the pre-AI world. It makes me sad that we'll never see it again.


I think (hope?) we will.

Check out the New Luddite movement [1] [2]

[1] https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/08/business/ai-luddite-movement-...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Luddism


Personally, In SWE, i think the industry has made a grave mistake with the agents and we're just one big Catastrophe waiting to happen. I do think that there is very real value when software engineers use these tools as something akin to exoskeletons that allow the human to do more, rather than just fully replacing them. However, I'm finding more and more that companies are slop shops and just attempting to automate all of their software engineering. That will certainly end terribly. I hope we are not cannon fodder.


Crab in a bucket. You choose your name well.


You could always become Amish and then it all goes away... ;)


For what? There are some things I want AI for because it does it well. There are some things I don't want AI for because it just makes a mess (hallucinations). Maybe the next AI will be different and we will have the conversation again.


Indeed, it kills our planet, our culture and our economy extremely well. Oh yes, and some code monkeys enjoy that it can make computer code on the side.


Other sites beckon.


I guess it should be said, of everyone who wants AI, they don't want to pay the expense for it to the level they want to use it.


No.

But people want what AI does for them. It's a tragedy of the commons situation.


Yeah I think the "how can you prove text was handwritten" question is a subset of the larger "how can you prove that a computer is being driven by a human" problem that all of the work around captcha, attestations, biometrics, and government-id auth has been aimed at. The fundamental issue, it seems to me, is that any signal that a human can provide to a computer (keystroke, camera frame, mouse click, etc) is inherently only parsable by code because a sensor has translated the analog signal into a digital one. That same requirement also ensures that the input can be digitally spoofed or automated. There's a similar problem on the output side: how can an analog user trust a digital certificate? What's stopping me from copying the certificate HTML or taking a screenshot and using it to trick people into thinking my AI content is handwritten?

I don't have any suggestions. I worry that the only strong solutions require a lot of power to be given to a centralized authority.


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