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Does anyone remember when computers "did things" for you, like power tools do, rather than being your care giver?

I won't give up agency in life.


Programs designed to run on computers do many things for you. If you want them to.

The party must rename everything and rewrite history (1984)

From Emmanuel Goldstein's work:

THE THEORY AND PRACTICE OF OLIGARCHICAL COLLECTIVISM [0]

PDF download: [1]

History must be rewritten to support the party.

As a web page: [2]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Theory_and_Practice_of_Oli...

[1] https://archive.org/download/the-theory-and-practice-of-olig...

[2] https://genius.com/Emmanuel-goldstein-the-theory-and-practic...


Just how bad will his dementia actually have to get before someone finally invokes the 25th amendment?

I don't want AI. I am preparing for a jump (back) to Linux. "Choice" disappeared, and yes, I know about the "fix" [0]

Maybe this idea may be foreign to many, but personal computers were something I built from bags of parts socketed and/or soldered onto S-100 cards, and that experience was the foundation of most of my career.

I was a Henry Higgins, and proud of my Eliza(s). While I get along cooperatively with Eliza (the happy ending to "My Fair Computer") I don't want Eliza to be my caretaker. This morphing of computers and internet into nannies and caretakers is IMO reverting to the "good old days" of servants. While some inventions are truly liberating (ask the guy who missed his Mom at an airport and freaked out for hours until she showed up at my home, courtesy of a cab or bus) how many are just replacing people with machines?

I could seriously use some friendship of the human variety, rather than a humanoid in a box (or an especially nice robot as in "I Sing the Body Electric" by Ray Bradbury, memorable on The Twilight Zone) Try being older and living alone, typing away.

I don't even use GPS any more, since I trashed Apple Maps when they kissed the Emperor's big fanny.

[0] https://github.com/omlahore/RemoveMacAI


I posted on another thread.

> A pilot phase with 38 ministry employees kicked off last year to trial Collabora's suite with Office documents. However, this trial was terminated when elections took place earlier this year. A spokesperson confirmed that the experiment had concluded, and would not resume again. They also confirmed that no evaluation benchmarking Collabora's performance against Microsoft Office had taken place either.

Okay.

PS the main gripe was ODF vs. OOXML

Gripe defeats evaluation.


Tech bro's want to be God.

That is godlike power without the "woke" part that cares.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50240296

"If I only had a heart"



I read the article on "The Signal Chats That Cost OpenAI Researchers Their Jobs" [0] and the (former) employees were asked for their phone password.

Accessing Signal, OpenAI discovered (the absence of) disappearing messages to an external researcher.

So, if an application is password protected either by the OS or another app which demands a password to launch another app, would the official just ask for the application's launch password, or is that beyond whatever overly generous powers granted to them? Perhaps this is rhetorical, because what we called laws are merely ignored these days.

Laws for which there is no charge, no prosecution, and no consequence (I can give 34 examples) are merely suggestions.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50210481


CBP believes it has the right to files saved locally on your device itself. However explicitly cloud-hosted data (that is not stored on the device) is supposed to be off-limits, as I understand it.

And keep in mind that American citizens cannot be denied entry to the country for refusing to unlock or hand over their devices. They might hold you for a little while, but they cannot stop you.


They can arrest you the second you are admitted into the country.

For what, the ambiguous phrasing is misleading

People are getting arrested for all sorts of excuses. The Cop City protestor with the GrapheneOS phone was detained for "a routine search for child porn" - not something they routinely search for, and some people think they were going to plant some if they could get into the phone.

What I’m saying is that you are correct. No country can deny entry to their own citizens.

They can, and frequently do, arrest you the second they admit you.

What for? Whatever they make up.

In the US they can also keep all your devices indefinitely.


> No country can deny entry to their own citizens.

USA effectively does that, though: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/21/us-travel-re...


They have also arrested citizens simply for driving in their own car proximate to an ICE kidnapping. But if we preemptively act like we have no rights then they've already won.

“a little while” isn’t defined in any laws or regulations, so that could be weeks or months if they don’t like you

Just wipe your phone before entering any airport and restore the data once at destination.

Isn't this just giving in if your only reasonable backup location is a US cloud that regularly has to negotiate with the US federal government. The only difference I see is that they have to resort to parallel construction.

> Isn't this just giving in if your only reasonable backup location is a US cloud

my backups are not in a US Cloud.

Contacts and calendar on self hosted carddav

Pictures and files on self hosted drive.

Deltachat on mail servers (non us hosted provider) and XMPP conversation backups.

I don't backup whatsapp automatically, only do manual exports once in a while of important conversations that get copied to my self hosted server. Whatsapp pictures and vids are automatically synched with syncthing.

I host encrypted backups for another tech savy relative on a server of mine and in exchange he also host space for me on his own local backup server. We are 2000km appart so it allows us to keep a safe backup in remote location in case of fire or natural disaster without relying on the cloud.

Only thing I have missing is an automatic backup test of random files to compare checksums. I have done test backups manually but last was a bit more than a year ago so it is time to run a new one and add this automation as well.


That's quite an approach, thanks for sharing. I still don't think it mitigates restoring within the US since they claim to have search rights within 100 miles of any international airport. Personally, I try not to fall into the trap of believing I need retention of data that doesn't fall into a few categories, most of which I would assume I will already be sharing with authorities through taxes, etc.

Musk is a naturalized immigrant. What if Democrats started behaving like the current administration and de-naturalizing selected people? (I doubt that they would.)


I am not on board with the graphic, whatever the heck it is.

https://www.openbsd.org/images/blowfishonbike-s.gif


Forget the artwork and check out the accompanying song and lyrics for the new release. I think it's one of the funnier ones so far. https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#80

Just as cringeworthy as the QT4 dance

To me that cringiness is oh so wonderful. Everyone is so weirdly afraid of their image, of how others think of them.

We've become sterile; caricatures of ourselves so that we can adhere to the groupthink. It's refreshing to see people unashamed to be themselves, with all of their weird parts.


It lost one eye, but that's ok, it still has two left.

Is it a pun?

The Simps on AI

The Simpson AI?

And then the 3 eyes fish makes a reference to Blinky

https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Two_Cars_in_Every_Garage_an...


Nice! Think there was a gap in release-accompanying songs from 7.4 to 7.8 or I missed them. Seems they are back on track now.

“Back in my day we didn't have artificial intelligence, we had real stupidity - and we liked it.”

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Now implement Prolog in your Game of Life and observe the Universe fold in on itself.

     ACHTUNG!  ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS!
Alles touristen und non-technischen looken peepers! Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das pockets muss;

relaxen und watchen das blinkenlichten.


Man, I love the spirit of the blinkenlights warning, but the "cotten-pickenen hans" bit makes it hard to use the original for anything.

I can't see why; it's a goofy 20th-century colloquialism popularized by Bugs Bunny cartoons as a substitute "damn". I sincerely doubt the original author meant anything else.

You can't see how using "cotton-picking hands" as a negative term can cause backlash? If the phrase was something like "don't break anything in this cotton-picking rack", I would understand, but "keep your cotton-picking hands away"?

I'm not a native speaker, so I might have genuinely missed something here. Still, if I had this warning printed on my cubicle I would be fearing for my job everyday.


Yeah.. the last line is enough for the reference.

I suspect it is social commentary on the dangers of letting the machine do all your thinking for you.

Or merely a single portrayal of a puffer subject to the socio-technological forces of this generation.

I really like OpenBSD. I have used it for years. I feel the folks there are very helpful and awesome but I also do not like that graphic.

You are not supposed to, it is intended to represent(and probably is) a machine generated image.

I have not really formalized my thoughts on the matter, but it boils down to. It feels great to get the machine to generate a thing for you but it feels terrible to receive a thing from somebody that is machine generated.

The worse part is the paranoia, Now I am seeing "tells" of machine generated content, and it may or may not be. But I have already lost interest.

The real irony would be that it is a hand drawn image carefully animated to feel machine generated.


Credit is given to yvaneht nioj and clanker

Yeah. To me, I feel like Theo de Raadt is being a comedian here, and the joke probably went over some heads.

I thought it was hilarious

If your joke is to smear your face with shit, don't be surprised when people aren't laughing with you.

To be fair, I'm reading it as satire of AI. So not liking it is kind of the point.

I mainly don't like the self-destructive aspect. Even if it's a spoof.

Especially when I see all the self-destructive goings-on in the world, based on senselessly divisive beliefs or just the power-seeking that generates them to divide and conquer.

I once met Ken Bering, "The Wheelchair Guy" whose foundation provided wheelchairs for people who could not afford them. The wheels weren't spiked, nor were they like a Seinfeld episode, where George donates a cheap wheelchair with poor brakes that sends its occupant down a steep hill.

Oh well.


They're just showing humility. Give them a break.

that's the point

It's satire

I would guess it is the pelican on a bicycle reimagined ;)

And a reference to a meme of someone sticking a pipe into their own bike and complaining about someone else.

We need to find out which LLM was used to generate this benchmark image, it is the frontier now!

I don't like it being 8MB and taking 53 seconds to download from this server!

It's rare to even see a "real" gif rather than webm or other optimised format, I don't know if that choice is part of the commentary or not.


I would just like to say that the Simpsons Already Did It: https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Blinky

The theme this time is from The Simpsons, so yeah that is where they got it from. https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html

Wow, that’s a weird coincidence.

It's not a coincidence. The song is called "The Simps on AI". They're definitely referencing Blinky.

The art is credited to yvaneht nioj, another simpsons reference.

Which reminds me of the Ralph Wiggum music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b403GtvwyEc

Sometimes I'm genuinely surprised that people can't recognise such obvious sarcasm

Earth was created six thousand years ago and we were running short on souls so we had to borrow a few chips from xAI.

It's like a pelican on a bicycle, but with social commentary.

> I am not on board with the graphic, whatever the heck it is.

They are purposefully iconoclast with whatever aesthetics are "socially acceptable" for mainstream nerds. For example, their use of comic-sans in official presentations. Here they use ridiculous slop in front of an audience of conservative unix hackers. You can find it funny with the right mindset.

The upgrade mechanism from 7.9 to 8.0 is still gloriously simple, and exactly the same as it has been for many years :

    ssh myopenbsdbox    # log-in to your machine
    doas sysupgrade     # will log you out, go drink some coffee
    ssh myopenbsdbox    # log-in to the upgraded machine

    doas sysmerge       # (optional) solve merge conflicts of your cfg files
    doas pkg_add -u     # (optional) upgrade local packages

Don't forget: doas syspatch. They tend to find some minor issues rather quickly after release.

Since I maintain my own custom patch set under OpenBSD, this is also usually when I need to vendor in the new release and update all of my patches.


Yup. I have heard the siren call. I’ll be putting it on an old fanless sbc router I have that is just sitting around since I upgraded.

What window managers is everyone running? I’m thinking i3 or dwm


> What window managers is everyone running? I’m thinking i3 or dwm

everyone is running different managers... I use evilwm on linux and cwm on openbsd. They are very similar (keyboard-driven, floating windows with no frames) with different default keybindings.


I use a custom dwm.

I thought that's just dwm :)

That should be the case, but you'd be surprised how many people just run stock dwm. I don't get it.

All of the "suckless" distributions beg to be patched.


Is there a nice place curating the best patches? Or a bespoke distribution of sorts for dwm?

The best place to go for curated patches is here. You can customize these or roll your own once you have a chance to examine the source code. dwm is very simple.

https://dwm.suckless.org/


> The upgrade mechanism from 7.9 to 8.0 is still gloriously simple, and exactly the same as it has been for many years

The upgrade mechanism on a typical Linux distribution is _even more_ gloriously simple, and exactly the same as it has been for many years.

  # Fedora/RHEL
  $ sudo dnf upgrade -y

  # Debian/Ubuntu
  $ sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y

  # Arch Linux
  $ sudo pacman -Syu

The false distinction between the OS packages and user local (/usr/local) packages during upgrade causes much unneeded complexity. FreeBSD is making this go away which is welcome.

    # Debian/Ubuntu
    $ sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y
But this is equivalent to syspatch && pkg_add -u , this does not upgrade the computer from one version of the OS to the next.

For a rolling release like Arch Linux you just always use pacman -Syu.

But yes you are correct, if you want to upgrade a Ubuntu distribution like 26.04 you do need to issue a command like `sudo apt dist-upgrade` which is admittedly an additional command. But then you could run 26.04 for many years. In OpenBSD anytime the base system/kernel is upgraded for a security fix or point release you need to do a slightly more complex dance.


> a command like `sudo apt dist-upgrade`

That is still wrong.

The correct form is `apt-get dist-upgrade` but that's just the command to update all packages to the latest versions in the same release of the OS. It is the equivalent of `apt full-upgrade` if you have the more modern `apt` command rather than `apt-get`.

So, no, that will not upgrade your distro.

The recommended course of action for Debian is to edit the repository config files, change to the new release names, and then do a full update.

It's a big job.

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/release-notes/upgradi...

Ubuntu wraps this in simpler tools: `do-release-upgrade` from the shell, or Software Updater for GUI users.

I just upgraded my Ubuntu 24.04 box to 26.04, and my OpenBSD 7.9 box to 8.0. OpenBSD is quicker and easier.


I'm pretty sure it takes more to move debian 11 to debian 12 and Arch doesn't even have versions

Arch upgrades are really fun if you don't run pacman for a year or more. It rarely works in your favor to not run pacman on a extremely frequent schedule.

Hey, you'd love this one:

  guix pull && guix system reconfigure
To undo, it's:

  guix roll-back
(now, where is guix-bsd?..)

https://guix.gnu.org/manual/1.5.0/en/html_node/Upgrading-Gui...


And don't forget to cross your fingers so the upgrade does not break your system... like what happened to me when systemd came out.

A typical Debian upgrade process is more involved than that.

OpenLSD, bicycle day edition?

It's a reference to your basic 'Baton Roue' meme.

I assume it's meant to represent the perspective of pro-AI people, but it's ambiguous.


Puffy's always looked kind of weird. I remember when they gave the damn fish human lips a few times and it always put me off

"Wireframe Puffy" T-shirt design with the 'human lips' was always my favorite. Hope they bring it back.

https://www.openbsd.org/tshirts.html


This is an amazing image, I am fully on board with whatever it is.

Is the animation comically slow for anyone else?


I love it too. It's nice to be able to enjoy some art with personality when everything out there is inoffensive and bland art.

that's the gif loading, it should be fast once it's done

similar on the front page https://www.openbsd.org/index.html , "UNDSREA LREER"

it seems very much like social commentary.


Tell me tis not AI, cause it sure as hell looks like one.

It is clearly AI generated and that’s the message.

It's satire

It's literally in the name

it's a parody of LLM generated images, referencing the pelican benchmark. I suppose the image itself is hand -drawn and stylized for genAI slop


And so it begins.

SlopenBSD.

Disappointing OpenBSD is and all of software is descending into slop.

Don't care if it is satire or not.


Agreed. Lowering yourself to the level of the AI drones is the first step to becoming one of them.

Before they were anti-AI edgelords, they were anti-VM edgelords.

Now they ship their own hypervisor in the base system.


I don’t think the theme is “anti‐AI.” I think what it’s trying to express is something along the lines of “take responsibility for your code,” where one’s code is the code one unleashes upon the world.

But that’s just my interpretation.


It's not that they were anti VM, they just didn't think it was a proper security boundary.

And they've been proven correct. Even the "secure" variety with hardware level encryption turned out to be vulnerable.

Even Xen (VM used by Qubes) periodically has CVEs, although they don’t always affect Qubes due to additional layers of defense and/or limited hardware targets.

CPU flaws are even more daunting. OpenBSD's BDFL, Theo De Rhaadt, had what some called harsh but accurate words for Intel CPUs when Meltdown was uncovered.

Rhaadt and Stallman have something in common in that they have been vindicated in near biblical proportions, often far long after presenting their stance and having been casually derided for it.

There is today still no real mitigation for the side channel flaws collectively named Spectre flaws. A look at Jonathan Perry's work, adjacent to the side channel stuff, tells us that most modern CPUs still not end of life today are truly single-tenant.

When reading AWS' writing on side channel flaws, someone who skims that writing will leave with a different conclusion than someone who reads what AWS has shared in its entirety and reads it slowly.

The only truly effective way to isolate applications effectively, in a way accessible to people in average financial stature, is to put them on different CPUs (hello dual and quad socket server boards). Thanks to the prevalence of inexpensive ARM and Risc-V based single board computers, although this requires advanced skills with operating systems and relevant tooling this is practicable (as ugly as it is).

There are some new general purpose processors made from ISA that don't use any form of speculative execution. These may be undoing decades of bad-assumptions cruft. Those who deserve these processors won't wait for retail channels to deliver them.


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