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Europe is putting economic restrictions on Starlink; the technical restrictions the US placed on Starshield are unrelated.

> So, in short: they want AI to take the good jobs.

You're assuming that high paying jobs are good jobs. While high pay is obviously desirable, the jobs themselves often suck, and people are paid those high premiums in part to put up with the sucky conditions. If lots of people both enjoyed and were able to perform a job, the pay would be low.


People are saying "AI took our jobs" or are concerned it imminently will. A lot of white collar tasks are doable by AI today.

Ah but I'd take roofing in the summer over septic tank cleaning any day. The existence of even shittier jobs does not make any particular job not-shitty.

Which would you consider more premium, the hotel with a lobby with marble floors or with linoleum? That doesn't mean marble provides any utility that the linoleum does not.

> remove the need for a waiter to come by and ask, or for you to get up and order, but by automating that away you also remove that little bit of social interaction for both the people ordering and the waiters.

Okay, but were you coming to the restaurant for social interaction with the waiters? Have you stopped going to those restaurants that serve you good food at a reasonable price and which are otherwise desirable places to eat because of the lack of social interaction with waiters?

People dislike places that charge too much for mediocre service, and those places disproportionately use the QR codes for ordering and don't pass on the savings from labor reduction to the consumer. Very few people actually miss their waiter interrupting their conversation to tell them the specials.


That is more or less the crux of what I was pointing out: many of these things are little side-benefits that you get on the way, not as a primary concern. By stripping everything down to the essentials and always taking or accepting the direct path, you will end up missing out on whatever contributions those secondary things (that you otherwise did not think of) would have made to your life. Just missing out on the random social interactions with waiters or personnel doesn't do it on its own. But structurally missing out on little bits of social interactions that were there before in all kinds of places in life, because everything is becoming more convenient and automated (think of how online shopping is dominating), will most certainly affect people eventually.

I agree with your last point though, and you can turn it into a more general statement: some people or companies use automation to do more, and others use it to do less. There's probably a reason for it, among others most likely deprivation. People and companies are getting pushed to 11, and take shortcuts.


You wouldn't enrich the 198 isotope, you'd just bombard natural mercury and chemically separate out the gold afterwards.

> "...the production cost is estimated to be a trillion times the market price of gold."

Wikipedia just pulled this one out of its butt. The value of a neutron in a nuclear reactor is the opportunity cost of it not hitting a uranium atom to produce fission. 1 mole of neutrons can produce about $100,000 worth of wholesale electricity assuming 40% efficiency. 1 mole of neutrons could alternatively produce 1 mole of gold, which is worth about $26,500. So it's roughly 4 times the market price of gold.

Of course there would be the cost of building and running the reactor and the associated chemical processes to collect the gold, but these cost are probably similar orders of magnitude to mines and refineries. Certainly not 12 orders of magnitude more.

While it's not economical to make gold this way, it is economical to make certain medical isotopes this way.


>> "...the production cost is estimated to be a trillion times the market price of gold."

> Wikipedia just pulled this one out of its butt.

It is worth checking before accusing someone of making something up...

This appears to come from https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-l..., which states that the author of a 1980 experiment says "It would cost more than one quadrillion dollars per ounce to produce gold by this experiment." That appears (from skimming sources) to come from a running cost of $5000/hr to produce a few hundred atoms of gold per hour. Modern methods are probably more efficient, but the number didn't come from nowhere.

Addendum: And per https://home.cern/alice-detects-conversion-lead-gold-lhc, the LHC can turn lead into gold at a rate of 89000 nuclei per second, which is ridiculously far from economically reasonable. The LHC cost $9 billion and uses a lot of power, so I'd say not "similar orders of magnitude to mines and refineries" used for gold.


> "It would cost more than one quadrillion dollars per ounce to produce gold by this experiment."

"This experiment" being a radically different method than the one under discussion. Wikipedia pulled something useless from someplace irrelevant, which is exactly what should be described as "pulled out of their butt."

The LHC is also neither a nuclear reactor, nor a gold making machine. You can make gold with it the way you can use a space shuttle to deliver newspapers. That it is possible is an interesting tidbit of trivia which you might include in an encyclopedia article, it is not however evidence supporting the claim that newspaper deliveries cost millions of dollars.


Anthropic's quarterly revenue is $16 billion. Assuming they are 40% of the ai market, pretend that all the ai market is american, and pretend all tokens are exclusively sold abroad, that would make AI tokens 7.3% of US exports, comparable to aircraft (7.5%). Of course in reality only a small portion of these tokens are american exports.

That really puts it in perspective in a nice way, thank you. These multiples really give a distorted sense of scale even when you know current production is not what is being valued

A single airliner can be half a billion dollars. That's about 1/4000th of the US's total goods exported in a single item.

Boeing only assembles planes, they dont manufacture the components.

A lot of components are actually imports from other countries, eg Japan manufactures wings.


So? If you import $100 billion dollars of components and you do nothing to them before reselling abroad, you have $100 billion of exports.

WRONG - You have nothing, the import and exports cancel each other.

You are arguing about net cost/profit.

We don't export nor import "net" anything. The definition of exports is not affected by imports.


You wouldn't need many ships. The volume of a single shipping container is enough for 1300 tons of gold. Of course gold is extremely heavy, you'd need a specially built container to support that much gold, but the point is the storage space of any ocean going ship can comfortably carry the entire gold reserve of an entire country.

If you actually loaded gold into shipping containers and obeyed the weight restrictions, all the gold in the world would take up less than 8400 TEU, which would be considered a mid size cargo ship.


What's crazy about it is if that ship sunk, as long as nobody knew, it wouldn't matter one bit. Shows just how much of a waste gold mining is.

And not just "waste" but it's extremely destructive to the environment. A large part of Amazon is destroyed because of gold mining.

Gold is a valuable metal with many uses, and it can't be printed. You can make diamonds but not gold.

Copper is a valuable metal with many uses, and it can't be printed. You can make diamonds, but not copper.

However, if you made half the copper disappear, you'd have a big problem.


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