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Agreed!


Indeed.


:D

(For the record, I read DF quite often as a Mac-minded techy weirdo, I just happen to disagree on this particular issue)


I make a real fact-checking effort. In this case, the developer (Godier) sent me a video of the app in action. It’s a real app. He couldn’t send me a TestFlight to run (he said) because TestFlight submissions are taking a week or longer to get approved.

Obviously what I did wasn’t enough, but trust me, I try.


Fair enough.

Did you ask him for the full rejection letter? That's the issue I raised below. I'm wondering if he forged the app name.

It seems like the situation still remains a little ambiguous - and forging the name on that letter would be definitive proof.

On the other hand, if you didn't ask for it - why not? It seems like the very least amount of verification you could have done.

Did it simply not occur to you that a source might lie?


No - really - my question here is an important one.

If you did not ask for the rejection letter - that would indicate that you didn't even do the most basic checking to determine the facts.

And that would seriously color your statement above "Trust me, I try."

I hope you answer.


Just fixed the /painstaking/painstakingLY/ typo in this sentence. Thanks for quoting it here.


I just refreshed my feeds and the typo is still there, although maybe that’s due to some part of my FreshRSS+Reeder setup.


No. It’s broader than that. The market forces are the entire realm of what’s possible, now and in the future. When Windows seemed entrenched forever, the platforms that eventually surpassed weren’t the competing desktop OSes (Mac and Linux). It was the web first, in the late 1990s-2000s, then mobile (iPhone and Android) in the 2010s.

Necessity really is the mother of invention, and the more we need something new, the sooner someone will invent it. But it will look no more like an iPhone than the iPhone looked like a PC.


> The market forces are the entire realm of what’s possible, now and in the future.

I actually suspected as much and left "competing smartphones" somewhat vague.

> When Windows seemed entrenched forever

It's still entrenched! Microsoft got a slap on the wrist by the government right before September 11, and antitrust enforcement has been on a holiday ever since.

> the platforms that eventually surpassed weren’t the competing desktop OSes (Mac and Linux)

In terms of revenue, desktop computers were surpassed by smartphones, but they were not replaced by smartphones. I don't consider them to be directly competing products, and most of us who can afford it own both. A smartphone fits in your pocket, whereas a keyboard and pointing device and large screen will never fit in your pocket.


This is a ridiculous take. The iPhone was enabled by unrelated advances in computer hardware miniaturization, it had absolutely nothing to do with Windows' dominance creating "necessity". It was not competing with, and never did, replace Windows. Regulation is needed to ensure that people can compete within a market, not just create an entirely new market as enabled by technological advances which would have happened anyways.


It's a little simplistic, sure, but I mean how much nuance do you expect me to fit into a HN comment? What I left out is Windows Mobile, which was Microsoft's attempt to extend the Windows hegemony to mobile devices. Here are Windows Mobile's US market share numbers, per Wikipedia:

    2004 11%
    2005 17%
    2006 37%
    2007 42%
    2008 27%
    2009 15%
    2010  7%
    2011  3%
What do you think happened in 2007?


Somebody came up with better phone technology. Which would have happened anyways. Your argument was that it was necessary for Microsoft and now Apple to have a monopoly in order to create "necessity" for innovation, but Microsoft's monopoly was not driving Moore's law. The iPhone would have happened with or without Windows Mobile.


The question is whether it's possible for a genuinely new competitor to arrive. Back in the earlier days, before Apple and Google were so entrenched, competitors weren't able to do it.

The modern smartphone became popular and dislodged the previous status quo because they were genuinely new form factors and interfaces. They didn't just steal the market away from Blackberry and Windows Phone, they invented a new one and starved out the previous.

And if a new platform were to arrive, they're so broad that it's entirely possible they wouldn't even compete on the App Store. When companies squeeze out and screw over others, and the market isn't able to signal that its not good, it's time for regulators to step in.


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