> a) I have never met a Lawyer who was able to write a single code line
That doesn't mean they don't exist. I went to law school with many former software engineers, many of whom are now prosecuting patents on behalf of high tech companies, and some of whom went back to engineering (like me).
"I have never met ______" is of no consequence to anyone; it's an argument style best avoided unless you're talking about deities or space aliens.
Yes it’s for the worse. Not necessarily because AI in general but because it’s all so new no one knows what the result of using it in the classroom will be. So, consider yourselves an experiment of the “disruptive education” enterprise.
My advice: read lots of real books. Go to the library and study with real books even (especially) if it takes longer.
>read lots of real books. Go to the library and study with real books even (especially) if it takes longer.
Talk to lots of humans too. Friendships would be a nice bonus, but your real goal is to prepare for the next step after high school. Because no one else will prepare you.
College, job, trade school, military: networking will be more important than ever in a world where any non-verbal communication will have scrutiny behind it. You don't need to be a social butterfly, but get really comfortable holding conversations and listening (or at least, pretending to listen) to others' experiences. That's increasingly becoming the only way to truly stand out if you don't already own capital. We're increasingly moving away from the world where a high INT stat can carry you through life like my generation.
It's more specific than smarts; DND has three separate stats representing your mental skills. Loosely, Intelligence is academic knowledge, Wisdom is practical understanding of the world, and Charisma is personal influence.
The parent comment is arguing you can't coast by with low WIS and CHA anymore.
No, it's from Dungeons & Dragons. Characters have six primary stats: Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma, shortered to STR, DEX, CON, INT, WIS and CHA.
Myers-Briggs are four character strings, not three.
It’s amazing at debugging too. I had it running in Powershell controlling an lldb session in MSYS2. The way it can read addresses and so root cause analysis is amazing! It takes a lot of mind power to do those things.
I like to watch it work though because it honestly teaches me some tricks.
I am curious what people think about the use case that is different for AI agents compared to humans. Aside from the things people use SCM for already that is.
Fossil fits the bill if you ask me because it has built in forum and stuff too, so Agentic discourse can happen there, commits happen in the SCM history. And it has auto sync so they can automatically sync their state.
I looked into beads but I didn't see a way to make it work any better than fossil, and fossil does more stuff. My typical setup is to use the repo as a working directory, the tickets for todo, wiki/forum for conversation. There is also a chat interface, but I haven't tried that with agents yet.
But I love fossil for this. You can create users for all of the agents (or agent roles). The CLI for fossil is just a binary and it compiles nearly everywhere.
+1 over here for agentic fossil. With fossil the "work" is integrated in with the code. Beads separates this out, the beads are instances of work that agents can consume, and they aren't part of the work repo. I could see why you might want this, but I still think that fossil gives you more utility.
i feel like dropping the review and test phase -- especially in the agentic context - is incredibly spicy though.
So if I wanted to use fossil scm, i'd have to find a way to glue that on, and now ... we'Re basically in the same situation as with any other solution: it supports only a subset of the feature we want.
and especially CI pre "merge" is a hard requirement, and fossil doesnt have any concept for that i think?
But the last time i evaluated it was in the mid 2010s, so things may have progressed since? but couldn't find anything on cursory glance and AI confirmed that position, but we all know how often its wrong... so how did yall solve that issue?
Fossil doesn’t have GitHub PR capabilities per-se. But its design philosophy is different with a focus on smaller groups of devs and not so much drive-by patches. I think in the case being discussed for AI agents, it can be simplified.
If you want human review on the code I’m thinking keep it simple and just review in branches/tags before merging OR even just have loose patch files.
As we’re seeing with resurgence of command-line utility by agents, that extends equally well to the O.G. diff/patch. A PR is literally just a diff with commentary and an approval process prior to merging. Diffs can be attached to forum topics and so-forth.
Lots of possibilities, but I think the main thing discussed here is how is version control better suited to AI agents moving forward.
yes, I agree: architecthre design, linting, commit msg structure, unit testing and other ci gates helps to direct the agents into building better software.
in my case, i use opencode with oh-my-openagents. Omo has an orchestrator in charge and manage all the intetactions between agents. ADRs store decisions and beads store decisions as well (including design ones), then multiple agents work on a single bead.
Yeah it should just state thing it means. But then again, there’s psychological impacts on society that we must be careful. For instance, teenagers talking to AI. If the AI just talks, people already start to feel real connections to the seemingly human entity. Maybe it’s better to disclose the reality up front?
Would it be so bad that lonely people can have a real friend that they can bring everywhere they go and even share its passion with through vision and audio? We don't want destructive friends encouraging us to do bad things, but a real 'buddy', somebody who always has our best well-being in its interests?
Would it matter if this digital friend is not a real human behind a computer screen, but a Language Model in a data center?
I guess it falls into a similar category as buying "special performances to satisfy certain urges". It probably feels close to the real thing (I wouldn't know, I've never tried - promise! :P), but it's never the same as love.
That's almost a year ago. One LLM year is like 10 human years. They're a bit like dogs in that regard...
I'm pretty sure you will be paid a large sum of money if you can make one of the frontier models urge you to commit suicide from normal interactions with it.
Ah yes, my favorite LLM fallacy. "You used the wrong model! The newest fanciest model is perfect and makes no mistakes, have you tried it yet?" Let's force all of society's most vulnerable people to pay extra $$$ to Sam Altman, then surely all our problems would be solved.
It's just a convenient way to ignore the years of evidence of the harms. Any bad news can be swept under the rug, labeled outdated as quickly as it happens. Well here's one that just happened, maybe this kid should have used a fancier model too? Should OpenAI pay him a large sum of money for the good he's done? https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/15/us/arjun-aravind-massachusett...
I'm not sure if you're trying to conclude that because a piece of technology was misused previously in a very bad way, that it will never be able to do good things because surely it was bad previously.
Reminds me of the 2000's crazy of "if you let kids play violent video games they will become unstable, violent psychopaths when they grow up". Thank God I was able to (rather easily) convince my mom that the idea that I would also steal a car and beat somebody to death with a golf club in real life just because that's what I did in GTA on my PlayStation, was completely absurd.
1. there weren't numerous real-life killings where the murderer credits GTA for coaching them through the crime
2. Rockstar Games didn't publicly say "sorry about the murders, but don't worry, we'll add more safeguards to GTA 6 to prevent even more people dying. GTA 6 will be the most aligned GTA ever!"
When a company admits to having blood on its hands, is maybe the point where things stop being "absurd" and start becoming real. But hey, what do I know. Maybe if HN existed in 2005 you'd have people commenting "who needs real people when we have computers, would it be so bad if lonely people have GTA as their only friend?" And I'd be the crazy one for engaging with them.
We should treat AI that recommends suicide to teenagers the same as we would treat a therapist recommending suicide to teenagers. I don't care if either/both/neither have souls.
My (controversial) view is that a psychologist is to a friend what a prostitute is to a lover. In a truly healthy society there would be no need for psychologists and prostitutes because everyone would have a handful of good friends and at least one lover. Back in messy reality, psychologists and prostitutes are a decent fix to keep society on the rails.
Well, a psychologist is also given years of training about what healthy behavior and relationships look like. Some best friends have this skill, others absolutely do not.
Well, no this doesn’t make sense. If you think about intent, most psychologists probably want to help people’s mental health. Prostitutes, although they offer a service that helps some people, I’m sure their motivation is primarily financial.
I dunno about this. Haven’t used Niri but it looks like a scroll from 2000 years ago.
And that brings me to books, which haven’t changed all that much in 700 years.
And the desktop metaphor hasn’t changed much either, probably because it’s metaphor for how we do things in the real world: on a desktop with documents and pencils, organized how we want them.
I don’t want my desktop to change in fact all the attempts have largely failed because they don’t model how we as humans work in real life, with a bit of friction and a dash of chaos.
EDIT: the few places I welcomed changes are: (1) snapping windows; (2) well integrated search. Where we can improve I think is multi modalities. For example, “open my taxes document, please” and an AI opens it for me, then I presume to place it myself.
So, my thought is that the paradigm holds and will stand the test of time. Where it will change is: imagine you’re a business exec from the 1950’s and you have workers fetching documents for you, organizing things, and bringing the important parts back. For those important parts, we’ll use the traditional metaphor or some derivation thereof.
So, it will graduate from “desktop” to “office space”. AI agents will occupy their own cubicles. And you’ll be the boss in the corner office with a good view.
