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It's not just a scene; it's the whole premise of the setting. It's why the Galactica survived and the newer ships did not. It's why the new Vipers got wiped out and they had to pull the old ones out of mothballs.

In the pilot, the Galactica was literally being turned into a museum, and that's why they lived.


It was even worse: the Galatica was a museum ship, and it was being decommissioned!

No, GP is correct. In the pilot, the ship was in the process of being decommissioned from military use and converted to a museum. It wasn't already a museum prior to the events in the pilot (if that's what you meant -- maybe I'm not really sure what your comment was saying.)

I believe they were nearing completion and already had the ceremony when the Cylons attacked. It's been a while since I watched my favorite tv series.

I miss these kinds of shows. BSG, StarGate, Star Treks, FireFly. I'm sad that they went out of fashion and the genre has moved on to other concepts.

Only Expanse and The Orville compares in the past decade I guess.


Firefly especially, for me.

Yeah, one of the Viper docks was a gift shop.

They even had to essentially recommission a Viper that was being used as an exhibit.


"What do you hear, Starbuck?"

nothing but the rain

Then get the cat in and grab your gun

Or, as the old joke goes:

> Psychology is really biology; biology is really chemistry; chemistry is really physics; physics is really math; and math is really hard.


> but this setup is certainly better than eliminating public restrooms entirely.


Of course. Isn't that what they're for?


That is exactly the point you are responding to. There is no such thing as "safe shock levels".

This is just Taser(tm) all over again.


I agree wholeheartedly with your first sentence here. But I find it difficult to think of a worse example you could have picked than taxis. For all Uber's many faults, the taxi companies were worse. Hell they're still worse.

Are you old enough to remember the bad old days?


Whilst you can argue that services may have improved in some respects, the action towards resolution to problems is carefully monitored to help as least as possible and insulate accountability within a blanket of 'help' agents.


Infuriating as it is, this is still better than with the bad old days of taxis, which usually had even worse resolution and accountability. It sounds like people don't quite grasp just how bad the taxi experience was.


The taxi experience was pretty great where I live and where I traveled. I guess we were experiencing different parts of the world.


I can share an example of a trip we just did to South America to two countries. Four out of four taxi rides were scams. Things are better to the extent there were controls in place, like taxi meters and an app. There the scam was less but still involved scams. Too long to detail in a comment here.

I should also mention we tried to use their version of Uber (DiDi), but I suspect there was some kind of price-fixing attempt there because no taxis would come for the price that they suggested. We had the option of upping our price until someone came and then I gave up on the service.

My other experiences were some years back in upstate New York, where there were also questionable practices, and you really had to look over the driver’s shoulder. They tried to control scams with payments based on zones, and the drivers would bend the rules when possible.


To be clear the happy path for taxis for me was fine. When things worked things were quite smooth. But this thread is primarily about when things went off the happy path. If a taxi didn't show up, I'd usually have a disinterested dispatcher to talk with who might be able to send another in a half hour. If a taxi intentionally went the long way around to charge more, I'd have to have an argument with the cabbie about this and maybe things would go well maybe they wouldn't. While I didn't personally experience harassment from cabbies I definitely know people who have. So on and so forth. In all of these cases off the happy path the usual recourse back then was worse than the recourse today with e.g. Uber.

Again the overwhelming majority of my taxi rides were fine. The overwhelming majority of my Uber rides are also fine. But when things go wrong they definitely went wrong worse with taxis than Uber rides for me.


I assume this is a case of I live in a part of the world where it was different to how it was where you live... Or we value different things.


> Are you old enough to remember the bad old days?

I'm old enough to remember them. I very much preferred the "bad old days" over bad new days of ride-sharing services.


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