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I really thought UTF-8 was already the default.


Depends on your build, system configuration, etc. I worked at a place where the data sci’s had a remarkable talent to build docker images based on python images they found in random places and you could wind up with charsets you wouldn’t expect. Managing the problem in code didn’t entirely work because if some third party lib print()ed something that had characters not in the charset it would crash.


I understand what you're saying, yet I've tried running on Linux

    env LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-1 python3.8 -c "import locale; print(locale.getpreferredencoding(False)); print('€urope'); print('STOP')"
and it worked fine.


It was the interpreter's default for reading Python source code files since 3.0 (https://peps.python.org/pep-3120/), but not the default for built-in and standard library functionality. But it may have been hard to notice on many systems.


On Linux it was, but not on Windows.


Even on Linux it was not. Python would use the locale’s encoding, which is not necessarily UTF8. The POSIX locale was special cased to enable UTF8 mode tho.


That benchmark could really be a good AGI test. Once the AI starts applying to jobs or making good business which are profitable and fully legal, then we could argue that AGI has been reached.


If you could construct a sandbox to test this, where it doesn’t touch the real economy, then yeah it’s a great benchmark.

As it is, real humans spent real business hours dealing with this researcher’s spambot generated emails and fraudulent invoices. Individual recipients reported feeling harassed.

This isn’t a good benchmark. It’s a series of socially destructive crimes committed by the researchers and then documented and published on the internet.


> Once the AI starts applying to jobs

I guess that's already a reality? [1-2]

[1] https://github.com/jaimaann/LangHire

[2] https://github.com/adrianhajdin/job_pilot

(among many other similar projects)


Seems beyond AGI at that point? Most humans wouldn't be able to make a good business that is profitable.


Sure, but you can do that at home too.


Earth is home.


Ask the AI to create a detailed spec according to a few simple requirements. Review the spec yourself and correct what you want changed. Then ask the AI to implement the spec. Each time you request something new, ask the AI to update the spec as well.


This so much more annoying and circuitous than writing code.


Then just write the code, my man! This guy in this post is CHOOSING to use the LLM.

Choose what makes you happy!


It isn't because I'm doing something else while it churns away.


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