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Tell that to everyone whose agents posted their secrets to GitHub.

Yes. This is wire fraud. It is absolutely illegal. Even if they weren’t impersonating a business, charging someone for services or goods with no intent to provide them would still be fraud.

Wealthier societies have fewer babies - it is likely that earth has a lower population in the 24th century than today. So the resources are less limited, and technology solves other scarcity issues. Everybody gets a Ferrari. Also, humans have settled other planets, so you could always just move to one of those.

Of course, it’s science fiction, not reality. We’ve seen how communism works in the real world, so I’m fairly skeptical of the Star Trek future. 350 years doesn’t seem like enough time to fix all the things wrong with our society.


I get the 'everybody gets a Ferrari' argument because at the end of the day that's technically feasible. Just have robots built one after another. Can't get more egalitarian than everyone having the same car. Some people might have to wait but ok fine whatever.

The mansion overlooking the ocean is a real physical limit. There's only so much space, so many oceans or lakes or whatever someone wants available. Today certain billionaires by themselves (artifical) islands, their own beaches, etc etc.

In a world with utopian egalitarianism who gets the Miami beach villa and who gets the Flint, Michigan apartment?


I don't want a Ferrari, and I like snow.

We aren't all greedy bastards. Don't you think that at some point, the people living in a utopian, egalitarian world would be content? I was raised to share and share alike. Don't you think that folks in a utopian, egalitarian world would want to share the nice things they have? I mean, it's right there in the description, "egalitarian". What's stopping people from just moving into the empty rooms of some greedy bastard's Miami beach villa? They can only grab and hold onto so much at once. What's the point in celebrating a birthday if not to share the cake? A person can only eat so much cake by themselves.


> What's stopping people from just moving into the empty rooms of some greedy bastard's Miami beach villa?

Guns?

I dunno. What's that then? The law of the jungle? People just grab what they can and prevent others from having it?


You're describing the status quo. Greedy bastards already just grab what they can and prevent others from having it at the point of a gun.

How about we, as a species, _not_ do that and instead share and share alike? No point in some awesome beach view or whatever without anyone else to share it.


tl;dr1: There are many capitalist worlds, people with that tiger can go live there. There's no point to coming back to earth with your money because of taxes and regulations.

tl;dr2: There are many M class planets with many coast lines and Earth is not seen as a place to retire because it's too loud. You probably can't see stars at night anywhere on earth.

tl;dr3: for a market economy to work most people should be in that market. In star trek billions of people (including some of the most stylish and sexy) live outside that market economy.

tl;dr4: traveling the stars >>>>> moldy beach villa you can't remodel because it's a landmark. There will be no city beach that's not covered in public housing. Any villa, including Piccard's villa will be a historical landmark.

Answer: It's fun pretend. ex: Me earthling, I love art but Picassos cost trillions. I join starfleet and save a space princes. She gifts me a 20k year old cubist like painting. I display it in my eight room starfleet issued apartment on the 50th floor of a building in New Santa Monica. Art nerds from all over the sector come visit me. I have social status now and can get into clubs.


In January 2025 most of us didn’t even consider the frontier models good enough for regular usage.


This is how you get wrecked by malicious packages being published or other breaking bugs. Pin your versions.


If I were China, I would ban US models from being used by my government for the same reasons.


They are already banned from Chinese Govt Ministry use, ChatGPT is banned, and US model providers try to block mainland China IP origins. However they are still heavily used by industry, and some would say that is part of wide spread distillation efforts. I doubt there are many queries from China that are not logged by one or more LLM routers.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/feb/23/china-cha...

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202607/1365448.shtml

https://netaskari.substack.com/p/chinese-llm-model-routing

https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3353002/shadow...


The response from apple is insane, “please keep trying to reproduce this for us”. That is your job, apple engineer. As a manager of a large software org, a response like that from one of my engineers would drive me insane. Fix the damn problem or provide a timeline for addressing it. When you think the fix is released, then ask them if their issue was resolved.


I read the comments before the link and thought this was a bit harsh, but reading that response I now feel the same way you do.

The reporter ALREADY provided a minimal example and Apple is like "yup we're going to keep changing things and you need to keep rerunning the code you sent us and reporting here because we won't bother to run your minimal example ourselves".

Just wow.


Giving the Apple engineer (but not Apple) the benefit of the doubt I guess their policy is not to make any promises or announcements in that channel. They have probably said as much as they are allowed.


Forward looking statements can come from anyone and become sticky when considering security laws. Imagine everyone at Apple was sharing their full triage and timeline for every issue; one can then make informed decisions about their stock price, and investors could sue if those statements turned out to be misleading. At a certain point, the risk is too great.


Ok, but even if that were true , it costs nothing to say "we'll let you know when we think we have fixed the issue so you can then retest"

"Idk lol, it'll probably be fixed one day, keep testing and find out" is a pretty crappy response.


> please keep trying to reproduce this for us

There's an engineer that's used to solely interacting with agents.


You need to get your head out of your bubble and realize that this bug does not move the needle on anything meaningful.

I work at a superscalar and we have also had about 40% increase in breaking bugs in prod year-to-year due to a lot of slop code. However, the engagement and revenue generated is up from the features. Why bother make a timeline and spend time and resources on things that the average user does not care about? Does the average person care about the OpenGL compatibility? No, so why would you spend effort on this instead of for example user engagement? Answer that.


Why make the computer do anything but maximize dopamine and dollars flying out of your wallet? Why ship a calculator app you can't sell subscriptions on, a command line interface, an email suite? Can't make money on it so why do it right? Why let a hammer be a hammer and not let you gamble crypto with it too?


If the customer wants these things and is paying for it, why shouldn't we? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And if your idealism can pay your bills, good for you!


Why even work in tech with that attitude? You are wasting your time on this earth. The margin is better in selling crystal meth and fentanyl, and has a far tighter product market fit.


I dont hold this attitude myself, I actually don't have any of the products I work with because they are kind of exploitative, but its what the people want and most people have very low self-control, mixed with that neoliberalism has convinced them that their path is completely in their hands.

Also it pays me really well so I can take my family and friends on trips and live a nice life :)


Because if you make enough decisions like that in a product that affects consumers and developers, eventually you turn into Adobe. Or worse, this guy.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49984862


Sure, but it doesn't change the argument. Adobe is doing really well if you look at the revenue. Adobes business is selling to governments and other large corporations that need compliance, its not to cater to the HN developers. Apple is the same, except in their case its the status symbol of having Apple products.

No-one gives a shit if some subset of internet warriors thinks that you will have a downfall in 10 years because of some obscure esoteric corner cases that don't affect your mainline business. Even if they are right you will probably not be around the business at that time and will have made bank.


Engineers and their companies are super users on whom the whole Apple ecosystem depends. If we can’t run our applications on Apple’s operating system, or they break things for our users, we will leave.

Take that lesson back to your company as well. It is easier than ever to switch between clouds and AI providers. It’s easier than ever to replace any software in house. This isn’t an idle threat; I’ve already moved off of several software platforms this year for other providers, and I’m probably doing the same for millions of dollars worth of business every year in the future as well. And my company isn’t immune to it either - our biggest customers are always looking for options to bring software in house. The more we disrupt them with “small bugs”, the more likely they are to leave.


That is just plain false and assigning over-importance to yourself.

Apple's ecosystem depends on every middle-class person around the globe wanting to be able to signal that they have an Apple phone and use the same features as their social group. Engineers are a small subset, they barely move the needle.


Ask the average Apple user if their device experience is getting better or worse over time. Most I know tell me things like they see small bug now where they didnt before, sometimes things dont work as they should, and more things needs a reset or even hard reset to fix. All very generic user reports.

All the bugs users are seeing are things developers picked up on earlier than users did, and shouted about in forums and bug reports. The fact Apple is not listening to its canaries down the coal mine is leading to the general slipping of its reputation.

Apples ecosystem replies on every middle class person around the globe having the frictionless experience Apple is known for. They erode that, and they slowly erode their customer base.


Actually, it seems like the people don't really give a shit, because Apple is still making bank, and is growing year-to-year like never before: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AAPL/apple/revenue

In fact, since Covid and LLMs, the ARR has sped up its growth. They should really be eroding under all this shitty software, no?


Check out the graphs posted in this comment, it seems like maybe its beginning:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50143703


It’s true and I’m not. If the engineers can’t build software for your OS, your users won’t have software to use.

We’re also talking about MacOS, not iOS. Engineers make up a big segment of MacBook users. Apple is only 9.5% of the personal computing market.


> Apple's ecosystem depends on every middle-class person around the globe

I have terrible news about the distribution of iPhones and the middle class globally.


Fable is behind Opus (which is also much cheaper) at this point in benchmarking.


Surely all of china has the resources to match a single ai lab?


maybe? all of china is not in a unified effort to match a single lab


There are a plethora of qualified Americans with CS degrees sitting unemployed. Having worked with a lot of foreign tech workers - I’d take the Americans any day.

The H1B program today acts to undercut American workers.


There are a plethora of qualified Americans with CS degrees sitting unemployed.

There's also a plethora of people with CS degrees who can't even write FizzBuzz on their own, even given a warmed-up IDE and a partially filled out skeleton of the program. And no, this is not idle speculation, I've interviewed quite a few of these people. So I wouldn't personally put much stock in "has a CS degree" as a marker of qualification for any particular job. That applies, of course, regardless of nationality.

Having worked with a lot of foreign tech workers - I’d take the Americans any day.

Having worked with many Americans and many non-Americans over the last 35+ years, I'd say there's no general difference in ability that correlates to nationality. I've worked with dumb Americans and dumb non-Americans, and vice-versa.


> There are a plethora of qualified Americans with CS degrees sitting unemployed.

Where are all these people? Every time I post a job, I get thousands of garbage resumes.


Then let Americans create unions. If this is abuse of asymmetric power then balance it. It’s not about that though it’s about nativism, racism, and punishment of liberal elites.


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