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It’s still cheaper to build in a completely undeveloped desert with no neighbors and costly utility hookups than space. By orders of magnitude. That gap will never be materially close.

Space datacenters are just SDI2, a convenient bullshit to be able to funnel more money to campaign donors.

As long as there’s space on earth, Space Datacenters can never be economical. It’s rally that simple.


If Starship launches end up in the $20 million range they would be easily economical. Running cable isn't free.

And how many of these rockets would you have to launch to match the capacity of a mid-size terrestrial data center?

We’re not talking about launching little satellites here, we’re talking about replacing giant buildings.


How do you cool a datacenter in a vacuum? You’d need ridiculous radiators to dump megawatts. How do you service it in space when something breaks?

An individual satellite would not be consuming megawatts.

The radiators are not a big deal. The solar panels required are much bigger. You can just run the electronics really hot to improve the efficiency of the radiation. Nobody is going to get close to those chips so the usual safety requirements don't apply.

You don't service it. Over time the chips degrade and become less useful. Eventually you deorbit it and it burns up. It's a sealed unit, not meant to be replaced.


Can you share the math of why the panels need to be larger than the radiators?

> You can just run the electronics really hot to improve the efficiency of the radiation. Nobody is going to get close to those chips so the usual safety requirements don't apply.

The chip temperature isn’t limited by safety issues (unless self destruction of the chip counts as safety to you). Certainly not to protect the people around it.


You think people wouldn't object to building a datacenter in undeveloped (or pristine as it would be called) desert? I honestly think they'll object to building them in space.

People seem to forget that stories and acting were the primary way of passing along critical lessons for surviving and building civilisation and human best practices befoee we came up with self help books and entertainment

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I'll let you in on a little secret: nearly all of the received knowledge of our culture has been transmitted to us because of "script writers" and their forbears rather than the people who they write about.

Novelists, journalists, essayists, pamphleteers, scribes, gospel writers, historians, diarists, etc.


I'll let you in on another secret. People in the military are in two groups - those who have been shot at, and those who have not. Getting shot at changes your perspective forever, and people who write military fiction but have never been shot at don't really get how it works.

For example, B-17 crews were trained very well, the best that the military could do. They'd have to fly 30 some missions. The probability of dying on the first 5 missions was the same as the probability of dying in the following 25 missions.


What relevance does this have? We don't live in a militaristic society. Most people have no military experience at all.

> Most people have no military experience at all.

Exactly. So why do script fiction writers have credibility in their stories about military operations?


I don't know, you're the one that brought up the military. And now you're bringing up people writing about the military. It's very difficult to follow.

So like MBA players taking a knee ;)

The entire world should be cleaning up the toxic lead reside generation from it's legislative bodies. It's done enough.

Except that in 4 years now they haven’t.

do u know the have a deal with openai?

DeepSeek is just good enough by now to do it very token efficient. Hitman 2 only a handful of days of off peak usage ... And then you can do this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qsacoS2mqA

Even since I wrote this last month, the release of DS-4.1-Flash-1017 has easily sped up the process by another 50%

https://georgzoeller.com/blog/posts/what-reverse-engineering...


Hah I knew that was you from the first mention of DS and game remixing :) Love your contributions on LI.

You could not do anything with that information nor did you know anything or could you reasonably find out anything about 99% of names in the book without effort, so this is just disingenous

And why would it have to be claude and not an order of magnitude cheaper model ?

because orders of magnitude cheaper models are also orders of magnitude less capable

ahahhahahhahahahahhahahahahaha. No.

Other countries have been far less capitalism pilled than the US by virtue of having universal health insurance.

Sweet Summer Lake America Child

I mean, China regularly executes its CEOs. The only sweet summer child here is you not understanding how Chinese politics works.

Seems very efficient at preventing a techno fascist takeover. See Jack Ma being a philanthropist now instead of running around disrupting regular people’s lives.

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