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Or they won’t give you a device if your intention is not to share back any exploits? Is the expectation that Apple gifts black hats research devices?

The expectation is that Apple plays ball with the rest of the security community if they are expecting the security community to actually give them bug reports instead of selling them.

Why? If no one signs up then no one signs up. The people that do sign up play by those rules. No one is forcing them to apply to this program.

The program says they can’t disclose until it’s fixed.

How is that not playing ball?

This manufactured outrage is getting ridiculous.


Paid bounties. Device program. Early access. How is Apple not "playing ball" here? Isn't that exactly what researchers asked for?

Apple has safeguards to avoid selling exploits to criminals that attack Apple's own customers. Good. I wouldn't want Apple to "play ball" like that.


Have you ignored all the conversation about the standard security industry 90 day disclosure period which the entire community is built on but apple refuses to use?

> Apple gifts black hats research devices

this is the unintended consequence that whoever came up with this policy missed: it effectively leaves only bad actors in your pool


How do we know 100% subscriptions are subsidized, it’s a possibility that they are actually ok (ie some people over use, majority under use and on net profitable) and the API pricing is actually just super expensive. Subscription is a buffet and API is a private chef :)


Failing to get a permit is not an act of god, having to pay even when the site does t have power is poor milestone / payment planning. Also it’s quite hard to request payment if the thing you are buying is not working (appreciate this quite complex here), but if the people who are delivering the data center are responsible for delivering the power, it feels like oracle would be within reason to not pay?


Is it not that the gains are unrealized? If they sold the house they would pay capital gains tax?


They aren't going to sell it, they'll pass it to their children and the cost basis will reset. Their children will then sell it and pay zero tax.


Then it would be taxed under inheritance tax (at the full value of the property - not just the gains).

Edit - I’m wrong, I am uk based - just read up on US, wild that you can inherit a house that’s gone up in value massively then sell it and experience no gains or inheritance tax.


Property taxes are unrelated to income tax


I'm not a finance person but I think capital gains kicks in if you sell early. Otherwise, just regular taxes?


opposite, income taxes take place first. after a waiting period, its just capital gains. capital gains taxes are typically lower than income taxes so this encourage long term holding


I can’t see what the event that has caused a force majeure claim is, though local opposition is not unexpected in any infrastructure buildout - I would be surprised if that is permitted / accepted.

All the reporting is about delaying payments, not a good look, and definitely undermines the FM claim. FM generally speaking needs something truly in expected and outside of control - COVID / maybe a literal war in the region your a working in. Increased cost exposure and push back from local opposition would not clear the FM bar in my experience.


It’s a blog post about work an LLM did though?

The pre print clearly states it’s a well defined problem limited by the man hours required to sift through the data. I think everyone knows it’s not setting the world alight?


It’s a constant tension in computing that has been around since mainframes and clients… Neither is going to disappear. My general feeling is normal people care more about how thin and light something is than their privacy, so if data center powered LLMs will have a strong future.


Hmm I'm not 100% sure about that, given that edge is very viable, and the geopolitical climate has changed quite significantly.

I agree that datacenters are not going to go away, but I have doubts that the buildup that has happened is really going to pay off for most operators.


Edge based storage is very very viable, and very very cheap, people still use Apple / Google Photos (consumers don’t want any friction).

Coorperate people likely just want “the best” and are happy to pay a lot for it to make their workforce more efficient.

It’s hard for me to guess where the data center buildout will go, eventually there will be an oversupply, but we haven’t hit that yet, and at the moment the companies owning these high capacity data centers appear to be making lots of very real money in leases to hyper scalers, hard to imagine this premium continuing, but we need to see where demand for cloud based LLMs tops out.


I think it’s clear that they are not turning back to use them exclusively, but clearly are ‘turning back’ in an additive way.

Eg putting these things on ammonia powered vessel will reduce the amount of fuel needed, which is probably a net benefit.


I really don’t know how you can say he wouldn’t do this things.

The Air particularly - the thinnest, lightest feeling, nicest to hold iPhone ever made, I think that might have been his favorite.

The Vision Pro is clearly an interesting category of device, Apple needs to be in, if it would have seen the light of day under Steve Jobs is unknowable.

He was ruthless at Apple because back then he had to be - now they can run Vision Pro and it not impact their ability run the business, if Apple had A product that did not succeed in the 90s it might have sank them.


The nicest to hold iPhone ever made was iPhone 5. I'm sure it was his favorite.


The first time I held an iPhone 5, I thought it was a demo device. It was too light to actually be the real device. That was such a great phone.


The iPhone 5 size was designed for people who use smartphones a healthy amount, ie not very much, usually in pocket and often one-handed for a small task. At some point, that was no longer how smartphones were most often used.

I kept my 5S as long as possible, until my carrier wouldn't even provide cell service to it.


Yep, this form factor was the peak. Like others said, if you run your life on your smartphone I guess it might not be sufficient. I just feel sorry for the people actually ruining their lives on their phones though. What shitty typing and multitasking experiences they must have...


And it sat perfectly flat and didn't wobble when you set it down... ¯\_(ツ)_/


90s Apple also coasted on the tailwinds of what Jobs accomplished in the 80s. Same with today. Jobs set things up in the 00s and now Apple is coasting again.

Jobs had products getting people out of their seats and applauding. New products, new industries. As opposed to now where Apple is following the herd and not leading it.

It feels aimless, and Vision Pro ironically is the best representation of Apple's complete lack of vision.


I disagree with it feeling aimless - other than the Vision Pro, you can’t really point to a weak point in their lineup?

You can only invent the modern smartphone once then everything else is iterative. The iPhone, iPhone Pro, Air and now Duo is a crazy strong lineup. Same for the watches, same for the AirPods.

Vision Pro is super interesting but just not ready for prime time yet, but as a demonstration of what is technically possible it is fascinating. Immersive entertainment is a huge opportunity, watching a gig or a sports game like you are there. If they can repackage and get it down to $500-750 then they could have another hit category that largely doesn’t exist (like Bluetooth headphones pre AirPods - around but no one had nailed it).


You think VR is a technology problem, and phones were the same way - they’re not. The iPhone was Jobs taking existing technology combined with vision to create an entirely new market.

VR is the same, you mentioned getting price down, Meta’s is $500. It’s not a tech problem, it’s a vision problem and Apple no longer has the vision needed to make a new industry like VR be successful.


And yet Apple is doing exceptionally well financially, the MacBooks with M series chips are clearly the pinnacle of Mac laptop engineering, and most of the devices are more reliable and more durable than they ever have been. (As someone who was repairing iPhone 4/5 screens multiple times a year for friends and family.)

What you’re noticing is consumers being desensitized to tech. It transformed from bulky computers to slick hand-helds. It’s not like Apple made the first product in all those categories, they just made a decent ones that were easy to use.

Comments like this I think are just missing that Apple is actually doing extremely well without Jobs.


The iPhone Air completely failed though in terms of sales/popularity.

Apple these days has completely lost touch with what people actually want.


The iPhone Air is my favorite phone I've ever had, and if they only made them, I'd be ok with it. (Sample size: 1, but still people)


n+1, i hope they continue it as well its a great form-factor and pretty tough as well


> Apple these days has completely lost touch with what people actually want.

Did you see how well the base iPhone 17 sold? Macbook Neo?


And so did the PowerMac G4 Cube, which was a Steve project through-and-through


You should probably wait to comment until iPhone duo sales come back.


Nothing wrong with the Vision Pro it’s just a little bit before it’s time functionally it needs to be at least three or four times faster and the battery life needs to be as good as the flagship iPhone and it needs to be half of the weight and half the price.


As a technology demonstration it’s amazing, as a product it isn’t particularly compelling. It’s to expensive, to heavy, and just a pain to put on and take off.

A $500 light weight version that lifts on and off more like glasses than a headset, would be revolutionary. I know a lot of companies are racing towards this but Apple with their custom silicon and almost limitless reserves of cash, feel like the most likely to get there.


Difference is they made a mini, it sold poorly, every time they make a phone with a bigger screen it sells like hotcakes.


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