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I’m hoping that someone will tackle Garmin entirely by releasing open source replacement devices ..

... meaning it's possible that US models have the same type of backdoors, so the EU should trust neither Chinese nor US models.

> so the EU should trust neither Chinese nor US models

Yes, in theory. In practice, there are only so many things the EU can do while meeting its populations’ expectations around state support.


You are trying to imply something but I’d like you to be explicit. What exactly are you trying to say here?

> What exactly are you trying to say here?

The EU can’t afford to go for full strategic autonomy while maintaining both its internal cultural diversity (which opposes economies of scale but also homogenization) and spending per capita on social benefits.

Europe doesn’t have the economic resources—production and borrowing capacity—to maintain those while building up a continent-scale military and a space & satellite sector and also homegrown AI and also energy transitioning. Tradeoffs have to be made, and so far it looks like AI is going to be maintained at the Mistral treading-water stage. (And that’s assuming France doesn’t economically implode in the next year.)

Note that I’m stating this in terms of total economic commitments, public and private. Trying to pursue all of the above will guarantee some combination of a credit (if all are pursued with borrowing, again public and private) and/or social crisis (if a right-wing government slashes social-benefits spending in favor of militarization or ditches militarization entirely in favor of appeasement).


State support has nothing to do with anything. Also, in practice the EU has its deepseek equivalent model in Mistral.

China grants up to 200% tax deduction on intangible assets acquired through R&D. Means your spending on AI training fees becomes a tax return amount or like appears as a magical donation deductible on the books. I don't know if DeepSeek is benefiting from exactly such a system, but that's generally how aggressively China seeks its advantages in high tech R&D.

Nobody else is or has been that aggressive. France on a Monday morning would be like $10b for Mistral in 3 years, and that'll be it. China is like $10b every year for 5 top companies for 5 years. Not necessarily to say such an all-in-doubling-down-always moves would be necessary or correct, but there is that kind of substantial funding disparity between China and the rest of the world.


> China grants up to 200% tax deduction on intangible assets acquired through R&D. Means your spending on AI training fees becomes a tax return amount or like appears as a magical donation deductible on the books.

This is misleading. Deduction reduces taxable income and does not provide tax return. E.g. if your taxable income is $1000 and you spent $100 on R&D and qualify for those 200%, $800 will be taxed.


Thanks for adding that, still very interesting idea. Perhaps this >100% tax deduction could eventually be applied to human labor to help incentivize employment and subsidize it with automation profits.

Although you can often take losses from a previous year to offset current income. So if you do a huge amount of capital investment you can offset against profits for years.

This is also misleading.

> Although you can often take losses from a previous year to offset current income

This is true, usually for 5 years.

> So if you do a huge amount of capital investment you can offset against profits for years.

Articles 11, 12, 18, and 28 [0] say that capital investment can reduce tax based on the depreciation or amortization cost, not by carrying forward the investment as a loss.

Nothing in the Chinese tax law says that DeepSeek can receive tax returns or free handouts from the government because they do R&D.

[0] https://fgk.chinatax.gov.cn/eng/c102962/c102967/c102997/c103...


Does DeepSeek not maintain an international financial structure to keep international profits offshore until it is convenient for them to be taxed? I can't think of a billion dollar corp that doesn't, but then Jack Ma went to a gulag for a year.

I'm not the DeepSeek Intl CFO. And DeepSeek doesn't do R&D outside of China. Platform.deepseek.com manages multiple payment providers, including companies created to support options outside of alipay/unionpay.

The default one is the standard deepseek: 12F, Galaxy International Building Gongshu Dist, Hangzhou 310003 Zhejiang, China

It's interesting how you assume a bad actor by default. Not really an 'innocent until proven guilty' mindset. And providing misinformation too.

> but then Jack Ma went to a gulag for a year.

He never went to a gulag, and there is no information whatsoever about the reason he was put under a 'house arrest'. If you are close to those circles maybe you want to share the details of your claims?


I assume all megacorps are minimising their tax. It would be idiotic to assume otherwise.

I understand Mistral compared to DeepSeek Flash is less intelligent, late, more expensive, and a third of the speed.

Equivalent might be stretching it.


The latest Mistral preview already matches Deepseek and it's not even finished its training yet. But please do continue.

That was my understanding, and I wasn't aware such a preview exists.

Feel free to share details.

I'm positively surprised there is a new model from Mistral already.


My teenage son summarized Mistral in one sentence:

"Mistral is so bad, it's the only model my school doesn't bother to block"


never seen anyone using Mistral's models.

I have.

> Also, in practice the EU has its deepseek equivalent model in Mistral.

In practice, European companies don’t use Mistral.

First acknowledge the reality, then we can propose solutions.


It is actually not unrealistic to imagine laws for eu gov software only to allow Mistral or Aleph alpha models. They are pretty good - on par with deepseek atleast. There are all kinds of similar requirements already from software stacks to databases.

What I would see even more likely are requirements of no agent commits, use of only human written/vetted code under their name.


> on par with deepseek atleast

For chatbot-style usage maybe, can’t really attest to that; for long-running, long-context “agentic” work including planning, within a harness etc., definitely not (yet).

> What I would see even more likely are requirements of no agent commits, use of only human written/vetted code under their name.

I mean in the end that’s what the Kernel project does now, IIRC? Everything has to have a response human’s sign-off.


Strictly speaking this is in fact correct and is part of the drive for sovereign AI more broadly including Mistral.

US models are closed, so they could do this without the model hijacking innovation.

US models have it in the clouds. Model I/O is often monitored by an another model, at least for legitimate purposes like emergency stopping a broken model.

> US models have it in the clouds.

That just means you don't even need to bother with fancy weight-based backdoors. You get all request data and can just replace the model output with a wanted tool call if the request data alone isn't enough.


funny when we remember the hugging face hack

Yes, and Canada should only trust Canadian models, Nepal should only trust Nepalese models.

No need to do that, they can also choose to continue to be spied by the US. Is it better to be spied by the US or by China?

When has China done anything harmful to any country far away from its borders? The USA on the other hand… I will take China for sure.

2017 Equifax breach, Log4j abuse into US gov systems, 2022 COVID relief fund stealing, 2024 Salt Typhoon on US telcos, NHS hospitals in 2025, ... You could list those forever. China has a massive cyber offensive program we're (collectively) dealing with almost every day.

And US does not?

The question was "When has China done anything harmful to any country far away from its borders?" No need to whatbout it.

Nice, some intangible hacking. You're right for a fact that it is theoretically harmful. Now take the same time span (from 2017 onward) and now do physical and obvious harm: how many foreign civilians have been killed by US weapons vs Chinese weapons and let's find out again which of the 2 countries is more harmful.

This is wrong re. intangible - the cost of that is spread to everyone + specific effects. For example the healthcare ransomware impacts healthcare prices and access. Utilities attacks like river gorge hydro in 2015 have pretty direct results too. But again, I wasn't making a comparison. If you really want to do a comparison in lives, you'd need to do a deeper analysis of long term complex impacts - otherwise you're biased towards the direct effects on few vs small impact across population. (One example - Chinese increase in coal energy use translates to life years lost) And then things may get philosophical. Anyways - direct military impact is not everything.

China is not the boogey man. That's nonsense.

this was response to claim from brabel that China is entirely innocent

They didn't say China is entirely innocent.

well, they prefer to just announce their border expanded: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-dash_line

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Lithuania_relati... would be another case

> On 3 December 2021, Lithuania reported that in an escalation of the diplomatic spat over relations with Taiwan, China had stopped all imports from the Baltic state. It said Beijing has delisted Lithuania as a country of origin, preventing items from clearing customs, and was rejecting all import applications.[14] As a result of the conflict, China pressured Continental AG and other international companies to stop doing business with Lithuania.[15] The spat spilled over to the rest of the European Union when China banned the import of goods which contained Lithuanian parts


That's the kind of thing every country does. I don't see what it has to do with this conversation.

Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Finland have to worry more about what the United States does in relation to being very friendly to Putin, China is a distant and I mean distant worry…

Ok, great who cares. I will use the best model regardless of cost or who "owns" it.

There is no point on using anything lesser and Mistral is a waste of time.


why would deepseek enable spying? i dont understand how weights would enable this?

edit: i just read https://projectdiscovery.io/research/how-abliterated-models-...

i understand the issue now


How many countries has China bombed this millennium?

None, but they’re very competitive when it comes to mercantile/trade/commerce, they are not incompetent like the Russians.

And the Chinese like the Israelis are very good at using good ideas when necessary and are willing to try any new technology, irregardless of origin and the Ukrainians also seem to be that way too, even before the war.

Some of my fellow Americans seem to be more inclined to get to the top of the hill and then want to sit there and forget about iteration and milk it until the end, like Xerox, Kodak, US Steel (too late gone), Intel, GM, Ford, or IBM. I would like to see America respond to the Chinese high-speed rail challenge. and the Thorium Reactor challenge.


From the outside it seems like China is a positive adversary for the west to have - they don't gain from military conflict and they seem to be well incentivized to just expand soft power and compete with the west economically.

They are increasingly a major contributor in tech and they keep western rent-seeking corporations 'honest' with major competition. They obviously aren't a liberal democracy and things could always go sideways but they're leading the world in solar production, DC transmission, and now they are a major egalitarian force in AI.

I'll take them over the Russian mafia state any day, for example.


It's been 12 years, but I once wrote a blog post on how my commercial spatial audio effect works: https://hajo.me/blog/2014/12/28/how-surround-sound-for-headp...

BTW, the resulting plugin was used during mastering of George Lucas' Red Tails, so I guess sound quality was fine ;)

My own Mac app has long since been discontinued (because Apple locked me out of the KExt permission), but I sold the tech and it lives on.

I keep wondering if I should build hardware headphones with the spatial audio inside, so it looks like Dolby Atmos to the TV but then does virtual surround sound on your headphones, but hardware has low-ish margins so I never found anyone willing to fund it, even though I already have a working prototype. Oh and the audio engineer who invented it has since been Grammy-nominated twice. And, well, Hollywood likes it. But still a tough sell towards investors.


Thanks for sharing this. I also tried constructing an effect using ITD, ILD, biquad filters and delay lines in saqol, but I never got it to sound good (so that effect isn’t included in the web version): https://github.com/mTvare6/saqol/blob/main/crates/saq-dsp/sr...

Do you still have a working demo anywhere? The link in your post seems to be down, and I'd be interested in hearing it.


> two sound engines, one licensed from NEW AUDIO TECHNOLOGY

is this why i have to log in to an account to use Virtual Surround on gaming headsets


"What is this superpower, and why is nobody else using it?"

The "Undo" time-travelling debugger for C/C++ has been around for 20+ years. So I guess the answer is simply that most people chase shiny new things instead of using established, reliable, and, hence, boring tools.


Methinks debugger devs are awful at marketing their software. I didn't even know such a debugger even existed, and I've debugged quite a few programs.

Fully agree.

Since even Fable 5.1 cannot reliably remember what it wrote into "memory" files before the last compaction, why would we trust it to not forget about some side-effect when handling assembly that is so verbose it'll surely exceed the context and, hence, necessitate compaction.


I'd say you're fully off the mark here. That page contains serious architectural insight on how to make a "designed" car feeling work within a "physically correct" collision engine. Getting the balance right is super hard and he explains how to do it. I'm confident no AI could do that architecture, so this is most likely hours of hard work with a thin layer of LLM gloss on top.

... brought to you by storyteller.ai, which now has a defunct hero video, but apparently still 10 mio users (at $12+ monthly). I very much applaud them for pouring their (est.) $1.4B ARR into Open Source.


Probably the code of these games leaked in some dark corner of the web in the past and that’s why AI can generate it so nicely. AI is also extremely good at building Quake 3, including Carmack’s notes.

But as soon as you are just a tiny bit off the beaten path, Fable/Sol will go postal regularly. So if your indie game has interesting gameplay mechanics, nobody will be able to 1-shot that for a long time. (Because their prompt would have to include everything that’s unique to your game.)


Because their prompt would have to include everything that’s unique to your game.

Well, yes. You need to unambiguously describe what you need to be built. That's not a problem this going to take 'a long time's to solve.


> You need to unambiguously describe what you need to be built

In the limit this can be as complex or more complex than just writing your program to begin with. If you actually care about your implementation details, your specification will balloon to encode all of them.


No, AI could have been trained on those codes but even after that AI can generate the code on its own as well.


This is fundamentally about price. Does every service use EC2? No! Because at certain scales, the absolute price differences become too large. And then you celebrate the millions in additional profit generated by moving from EC2 to bare metal. It’ll be the same with SaaS: those companies keeping things AI-free will have higher profit margins. So the market will reward AI-free.


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I have 18 years of experience across 5 companies in taking products from idea to paying customers. I've built ImageRights' web search and image-retrieval database (C++, in service since 2015, finds copyright infringements worldwide), DeutscheKI (100% private German AI and local ASR), and before that the Spatial Audio Designer, used in Hollywood. And a German image distribution start-up.

I have experience with AI research, adaptation, and training. I've built AI RLVR training tasks in the past. Won the 2021 Bomberland mid-season with PPO. I'm also open to northern German on-prem CV/ASR work in case you cannot ship data to any cloud.

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