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It's amazing how males can't conceptualize life without them.

Oh no, how will we ever deal without billions upon billions of abusers and molesters.


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I don't have trauma. I have two eyes, a pair of ears and a brain.

I was raised as a classical cis male. I have spent most of my time in male-exclusive or male-majority circles.

I have yet to find a male with even a sliver of moral or ethical behavior. Behind closed doors, in a male-only environment, you discover the truth about males. There is not a single salvageable male.

"Aren't you a male, too?" Do you think I haven't tried to kill myself? It's surprisingly difficult. Besides, I'm trying to get as far away from masculinity as physically possible.


>I don't have trauma.

>"Aren't you a male, too?" Do you think I haven't tried to kill myself? It's surprisingly difficult.

Brother, you need help.


I wish misandry were real.

Males are so used to holding all the cards and having everyone do their bidding that women having self-agency and making decisions feel like emasculating humiliations and an attack on the bases of masculinity.

They won't listen because they know what's at stake.


I guess you haven't met an actual misandrist. Actual misandry, like misogyny, is pathological. I assure you that my masculinity is not threatened by women making decisions and I fully support dismantling the patriarchy. Unfortunately, things seem to be sliding backwards.

> I guess you haven't met an actual misandrist.

Of course I know them. It's me! (joshing)

Don't take it as an attack on you, by the way. But we have to recognize one of the biggest roots of the problems facing the world today.


I understand, and unfortunately pedantry becomes important here when we're agreeing upon and elevating shared ideals with the intention of establishing new institutions.

So for me, I understand and support the distinction you're making about how resistance to oppressive institutions is not hate or violence, "misandry isn't real" just doesn't tell enough of the story. The type of misandry I'm speaking of isn't systemic or institutional in the way misogyny is. It's much more pathological and individual. I haven't met many people like this and it is definitely an outlier, whereas misogyny in men is commonplace. Humans, of course. The spider dating scene is a whole different conversation.

I'm curious what in particular you meant by one of the biggest roots of the problem facing the world today. The patriarchy, or something else?


Yeah, I get what you mean.

Patriarchy, to be sure. But I'm also rallying against the false conceptions many people have about the acts of males in patriarchy.

Put simply, there is no male who does not benefit from the patriarchy. What's more, masculinity itself is a toxic expression of itself. You'll find that naïve liberal humanists often speak about "positive masculinity", yet they either struggle to define it or define it through traits that have no reason to be male-exclusive. Masculinity and, thus, maleness itself is a poison on this world that has been choking it for as long as we've been alive.


> define it through traits that have no reason to be male-exclusive

Well, this is what I do. When I think about what it means to me personally to be a man, to be masculine, I think about the ideals I try to live by. They're all universal ideals; but I think myself and the rest of the male community are better off for embodying them.

I expect women to do this as well; I think the majority of positive feminine traits one might try to identify are traits that have no reason to be female-exclusive. I don't think either femininity or masculinity are inherently toxic. What I would call the dominating ideas of modern "masculinity" are mostly toxic.

But I'd ask of you to consider that many of us are trying to be positive examples to other men. I myself have isolated toxic traits within myself that were learned from the male community; I didn't have a dad or a present mom, my male guardian was extraordinarily abusive and patriarchal (Catholic deacon ex-boxer), and I grew up in a backwards, rural area. I'm still working on being the best version of my self.

Especially when you consider that for any change to be effected within the male community, the conversation takes place with respect to any notion of masculinity. You are not going to be able to sell to men as a whole the idea of shedding their gender identity. Believe me, I would love if the entire concept of gender identity disappeared tomorrow and we all just saw ourselves as people, free to express ourselves in whichever manners we choose, without constraints such as "maleness" or "female...ness". But, gender identity exists today, it is culturally inherent and the best way to effect change today is to discuss what masculinity should be. I'm glad that the traits that come to mind for me are not male-exclusive. I would be very sad if there really were such fundamental, irreconcilable differences between men and women.


> Gay men have excellent marriage/partnersahip statistics. They stay together, they don't (or tolerate/accept) "cheating", very low physical abuse, very happy/satisfying relationships etc statistics.

What.

Have you ever met a gay male? Maybe even talked to him?

Gay males are still males at the end of the day so they always land themselves in the most damaging relationships possible. Males already cause tons of harm by themselves, so sum them together and you get a truly dreary mess.

There's a reason there are so many gay males who are so homophobic they make Evangelicals seem like a Pride Parade Organizing Committee.

I was like that. I simply managed to realize that the problem wasn't homosexuality, but rather that it's always been males.

Dating males in general is a form of self-harm if I'm being honest with you. I'm bisexual and I do still feel attracted to males but I am at a good enough spot that I don't want to hurt myself that way.


Say it. Say you want women to be enslaved housewives again. This is all you males want. The male mind virus is what's destroying this world yet you can't see it.

The male mind is impossible to comprehend. Half of a species no more evolved than its ancestors, still guided uniquely and exclusively by its dick. I am so sick of males.


Also Mileikowsky and the roving gang of international Zionists and Chosen Ones have veto power over 90% of the governments in the world.

The US congress and senate get their laws and edicts directly from the top brass of the IDF.

Every single head of state in the Eurozone (bar Perro Sanxe, who is controlled by Morocco instead) and every single bureaucrat have to follow the rules set down by Israel, lest the union collapse.

They're everywhere you look. You don't have to fall for Hasbara or Unit 8200 propaganda about how this totally means you're an irredeemable monster, they are the ones who are pushing this.


Perro is controlled by Morocco because he’s being blackmailed by Morocco for the stuff they found in his phone… using Israeli spyware.

You seem to have fallen for a well known antisemitic conspiracy theory.[0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Jewish_conspirac...


I didn't fall for anything, I simply have two working eyes and the capacity to connect facts together.

Look at your own link. Feel free to go through my comment history. White genocide? Don't make me laugh. Cultural Marxism? I sure hope so! I'm an ultra-progressive extreme leftist.

But that doesn't mean I'm blind, or that I'm willing to ignore the truth that is staring me right in the face. Class analysis can't explain this slavish attitude that nearly every world leader has to Israel. There's no intra-class conflict in Israel, all disagreements vanish into the ether and they close ranks as soon as they smell the opportunity to rid the world of what they view as the filthy, of the sheqetsim, of the abominable.

I will not willingly ignore the fact that I'm considered nothing more than cattle fit for slaughter to the chosen ones, nor to everything that they have done with their power in my country.

Even if it puts me at odds with my ideological cohort, I only hope that they are able to fully open their eyes too, soon.


> White genocide? Don't make me laugh. Cultural Marxism? I sure hope so!

There are many beliefs that posit an international Jewish conspiracy, obviously not all of those may by applicable to you.

> I'm an ultra-progressive extreme leftist.

Antisemitism often exists in both left wing and right wing extremists groups, the international Jewish conspiracy beliefs likewise do as well.

> Class analysis can't explain this slavish attitude that nearly every world leader has to Israel.

It seems the opposite is true overall.[0]

> There's no intra-class conflict in Israel, all disagreements vanish into the ether and they close ranks as soon as they smell the opportunity to rid the world of what they view as the filthy, of the sheqetsim, of the abominable.

There are deep divisions within factions in Israel, to claim otherwise is to ignore reality.

[0] https://unwatch.org/2025-unga-resolutions-on-israel-vs-rest-...


> There are no innocents in Gaza.

This is true. Their crime is not having been born a Jew. According to the Torah, the Talmud and the Talakha, shkotzim and shiksim like us must be slaughtered as is the right and the duty of the Chosen Ones to honor G-d.


But full-sized trucks like the F150 are some of the most amazingly inconvenient vehicles on the road currently? You can't fit them anywhere, can't park anywhere, the ride quality is dogshit without a huge load in the back or off-road, fuel costs are bankruptcy-inducing, they go through consumables like crazy and so on.

Somehow, it doesn't add up to me that people would prefer to face constant daily inconveniences for the sake of the one or two times a year it's useful rather than have a convenient time most of the time and have to come up with something occasionally.


>But full-sized trucks like the F150 are some of the most amazingly inconvenient vehicles on the road currently?

It's not 1983, modern trucks are some of the most amazingly convenient vehicles on the road currently.

>You can't fit them anywhere, can't park anywhere, the ride quality is dogshit without a huge load in the back or off-road, fuel costs are bankruptcy-inducing, they go through consumables like crazy and so on.

They fit almost anywhere, can park them almost anywhere, have superior ride quality... high fuel costs and consumables are the cons.


Sales numbers seem to disagree...

Isn't Stellantis selling Ram 1500s at a pretty good clip in Europe no less.


With no contrast that's a little disingenuous. https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2025-full-year-euro...

Gas is closing in on >6$/gal and my country produces no oil but a ton of electricity. How are any of those supposed to help?


They absolutely could not, the high-tech interior is cheaper. A screen is cheaper than ten million tiny little buttons.

Incidentally, this is also partly why the interiors feel so egregious and cheap in the pieces of shit produced by Germans these days.


So… it’s not really high-tech, it’s just a screen? I guess I need to see what the actual offering is.


That's the entire modern, Tesla-inspired design ethos: remove all knobs, remove all buttons, remove all levers, remove the PRNDL, remove all the gauges, replace it all with controls on a big iPad in the center, and call the spartan interior "high-tech"


They cancelled and destroyed their 0 Series EV line when it was basically two days away from starting deliveries and now they have absolutely nothing to show for it.

They are so unbelievably fucked. I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually pull out of the car manufacturing game and exclusively stick to motorcycles.


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