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Now if only they'd actually deliver a vehicle

Don't worry, the car won't last long enough for it to be all that bad in the long run

Obviously it's hard to prove such a thing but I've always wondered if the owners of Reddit actively support having these operations run on their site.

I've seen cases where the admins delete comments that talk about the issue


I think that reddit's recent change to allow hiding comment history is exactly to help support shilling.

It makes it hard to see what's a bot and what's a legitimate account.


I always assumed Reddits API going paid was to monetize shilling. I'm sure they make a killing now, every voting season!

Yep.

Owners of Reddit also own these companies.

I think they just didn't do a good enough job at advertising it. Even the salesmen at the dealers didn't seem to really understand the Volt

I've yet to meet a Volt owner who wasn't fanatically obsessed with theirs (myself included). One common theory for poor sales is that dealers tend to make more on service revenue than the actual sale, and Volts run forever with very little maintenance, but I don't know if that's just speculation. I've heard anecdotes of buyers walking in ready to write a check for a Volt, and the salesperson tried to discourage them and steer them towards an ICE vehicle instead.

That's pretty much how the Chevy Volt worked. It was an incredibly good system in that car and GM did their usual thing and killed it

They really don't

Ok, so the above user stop using it rather than whining on a public forum. It's pathetic.

And for the dumbest, most Amazon reason possible


We really need a better board for talking about this stuff on.


I sent an email to dang about the problem of people flagging comments just because they disagree. I think he's unaware that it is such a severe problem. I've been collecting a list of example comments to send him.

I think if an account is frequently flagging comments which get vouched by others, that is a red flag for ideological flagging and they need to have their flagging ability reviewed.


It should be changed so flagged comments are still viewable, just hidden. This would somewhat counteract the disagreement flagging. Maybe show who flagged too.


Flagging shouldn't be a thing at all. If you like a comment, vote it up. If you dislike a comment then vote it down. Any functionality beyond that is pointless


I understand what you mean but you can’t allow complete anarchy.


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and your evidence is?


There’s been a lot of time and effort and money put in to siloing away independent forums so that you don’t use them.

Someone go ahead and explain to me the actual rationale that RDDT has a higher P/E ratio than Nvidia. It’s not because of some dumb “ai training deal”. It’s because until they run it into the ground, it is the place to find what used to exist in forums.


> Someone go ahead and explain to me the actual rationale that RDDT has a higher P/E ratio than Nvidia.

Investors in RDDT are pricing more growth than they are into NVDA. NVDA had a high P/E until their net income grew ($4B and change to $72.2B in from FY 2023 to FY 2025 and over $100B for FY 2026)


Uh huh.

Pretending that any of this is some traditional idea of investor sentiment is such a last decade way line of argument. Please don’t insult us both pretending real people and their motivations are what drive the markets.


Some of it is due to the explosion in options trading and the resultant hedging by market makers, but large institutions still have valuation models based on fundamentals that they trade on.

It’s entirely possible that the market is wrong about RDDTs future growth, and in that case the P/E will come back down to earth.


fwiw HN has some involvement of those interested in speaking hard truths about israeli power dynamics: https://www.timesofisrael.com/snippy-twitter-exchange-expose...


"12 years ago PG tweeted something" is an extremely low impact data point.



Heh sorry, I didn't realize I'd grabbed on from so long ago. You're right. But just saying someone who doesn't tow the line with Israel laid a big part of setting out the culture of a whole network, and continues to role-model his declining to tow the line


Flock cameras do the same thing to me so I guess I'd better call the cops.


I have a theory that there are far fewer genuine users on Reddit at this point than you'd expect.


The incentives to create fake engagement to satisfy their actual users who want discussion are quite clear. Doing this also gives reddit an advantage when monetizing their data. Scrape posts & comments for free, and you won't know which are LLM-generated and which at least have a human in the loop (but the human still may use an LLM, so this is where fingerprinting comes in). Perfect for incentivising the ai labs / other consumers of reddit data to pay up for an official feed.



Reddit may be the most manipulated social media there is.


Yep, it's mostly bots, shills, and children and it's nothing new.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jaymcgregor/2017/02/20/reddit-i...


I'm fairly certain it's true.

Here on YC News, even a minor comment a few lines long might get at least one or two upvotes (or downvotes). I'll get a reply about 50% of the time.

On Reddit there are posts with apparent huge volumes of "user interaction": thousands of comments, thousands of upvotes per top comment, etc... but if I comment on one of those posts... nothing. Zero up or down votes, zero replies, just... silence.

I'm learning to recognise these posts now, and they're the majority of the "front page" volume. The only posts where I'll get any interaction now is the really niche ones like the hobbyist ones or "owners of specific gadgets" and the like.


Sometime you should look and see how many of those comments you made on reddit are instantly shadow removed.

You don't get any up votes because nobody ever saw those comments to begin with.


They’re visible.

I have heard that shadow banning is more commonly used on Reddit than here, which just makes the problem worse: banning humans but allowing bots through.

PS: someone showed that around the time GPT 4 was released the use of em-dash on Reddit increased from 5% to 20% of comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1kfg9b8/oc...


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