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Yes, you publicly announce everything now so you can throw it all at the feet of the ousted leader. If not, enough time will pass where blaming the ousted leader looks like excuses for the current one and just looks bad to the public. Look at the current US administration as an example of how the constant blaming of the previous administration played to the public opinion.

Who decided to act? Some dirt that everyone thought was swept under the rug leaked, and now everyone can see how much of a dirt bag Jensen is. It's looking to me like the house that Jensen built is just a bit less raggedy than a house of cards built on sand on top of an active fault line. The news of these deals isn't a recent revelation. The recent news is that there's possible skirting of laws by the company led by a philanderer at best with one of his trysts being with a foreign spy. There is no good light to paint this.

Such an important company, with no succession plan. He had 60 direct reports.

Does that 100% include the gear that gets stolen in transit?

'Stolen', meaning 'delivered to wrong address'?

As we've heard repeatedly this week, for unrelated reasons, it's also national security issue. That's definitely FBI purview
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Im not threaten by China at all, there should be no sale restrictions. However I also don't think CEOs should be able to sidestep government regulations that they operate under and I hope he gets nailed to the wall over this.

If I got caught selling even a handful of restricted GPUs to China, I would be in prison. If we want to even pretend we live under the Rule of Law, this guy should be too.


> However I also don't think CEOs should be able to sidestep government regulations

Why not?

Is Nvidia an American company or a global company?

Jensen is right, logical and pragmatic

> I hope he gets nailed to the wall over this

Hope whatever you want to hope, go look at your local towns and cities and tell me how they’re doing. Go see what our retarded mindset of self-harm did to us.

>Rule of Law

What a nice pipedream. America can’t be a place of dreams and of wanting harm to others at the same time, you’ve gotta pick a lane buddy. The jingoism is coming from a tiny tiny handful of people, most Americans don’t give a fuuuuuck and just wanna have fun. There’s no reason for us to restrict or fight China it’s the dumbest shit, they’re so innovative


What does that even mean? What does being a "global company" mean exactly? It was founded in the US, it is headquartered in California, its stock is sold public on the US stock exchange. Yeah it needs to follow US rules.

And self harm for following our own rules? If the law is wrong, the law should be changed, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore the law when it is convenient because other people break laws. People do drugs and steal stuff every day, does that mean I should be allowed to smoke crack on the White House lawn and steal their pink flamingos without punishment?

Also if you don't believe in the Rule of Law or that we should enforce it, you don't believe in democracy or modern society. In which case I really could not care less about your opinions on law and order because they are of zero worth. It would just be rule by strength of arms, and the only reasonable response to that is using my own strength of arms to beat or kill my opposition into submission.


Jensen is right!

> It was founded in the US, it is headquartered in California, its stock is sold public on the US stock exchange. Yeah it needs to follow US rules.

Fuck that

The law gets changed thanks to innovators and pioneers like him otherwise we follow the same policy that’s killing us.

I simply refuse no matter what to see 1.4 billion people as the enemy blindly when they’re driving our world towards progress while our governance is out here jerking off and hurting ourselves


The simple truth is the US benefits from them selling us physical things in exchange for our IOUs and “intellectual property”. Geopolitics should always be pragmatic instead of values driven, and I’ll be damned if my country is giving away its advantage instead of using that advantage to gain an even bigger advantage.

That being said, it would’ve been better for China to be dependent on Nvidia instead of funneling that money into domestic alternatives.


Do you think I'm the FBI? Why are you asking me this like I'm the one making the claims? All I did was report what is being said about the situation. Also, nobody asked if you were concerned. Why is your opinion important or interesting in any way regarding this. Are you Jensen using an alias?

Jensen is simply right and an actual legend in the valley

I was wondering if there'd be jokes about the price inflation on GPUs.

Unfortunately this isn't one. $5.7m is a reasonable estimate for one of those systems.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...


Looks like I replied to the wrong comment. Should have been: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50489423

I much prefer the train heist from Breaking Bad

was there a general region where this happened more frequently that doesn't look like a heat map of the general population? I'm thinking specifically about east coast crime family tropes here

So, like torrenting?

Huh, yeah. That's a really apt comparison since many torrent sites and such are invite only unless you've shown to be a good seeder.

Who's being dense? Flock is just logging data it sees in the wild. That has nothing to do with the 4th amendment. It is the cops using that data that would be any where near violating the 4th. So as stated, Flock isn't doing anything illegal. If you want it to be illegal nationally, Congress needs to get involved.

Constructive intent. These systems exists for purposes other than violating our rights in the same way that a known drug dealer has a pill press for decoration.

I don't agree that nobody realizes it. I think it's more of an SEP[0] situation. It's not like people are unaware that cameras are prevalent and there's a good chance you are being recorded anytime you are in public. It's more like it is such an issue that is well beyond the control of the individual it is best to just act like it's not really there allowing them to carry on as normal.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somebody_else%27s_problem


The other thing is a lot of people don't realize that the nature of the surveillance has changed. I'm not that concerned with random security cameras recording me most of the time because they're dumb and only record so I'm only really giving up information that anyone else there in the moment can already see. With flock and other newer systems though the data is collated and collected making it a complete dragnet for anyone in the area they operate in.

It's one of the places I hope the courts or legislature updates the 4th amendment to acknowledge that computer systems allow collection of individually innocuous data points to build into an effective panopticon. A lot of the limits on the 4th don't really include a realization that technology has made a lot of things so much easier to do that the government is able to do much more with the same information because they can cross compare it with so many other datapoints that they can cheaply do it for everyone instead of being restricted by the resources and having to choose who to investigate.


Sorry, I meant moment by moment.

Imagine that you drive downtown to run an errand, does anybody have a way of figuring out how many cameras recorded them and who owns the data?


Not that long ago I remember signs that would say "You're on camera". I always thought that it was illegal (in the US) to be filmed without consent, but I guess I was wrong..

It’s definitely not, especially in public places with no expectation of privacy.

The signs are just to make people aware, to discourage theft/bad behavior.


While limited, there absolutely is some expectation of privacy in public. Carpenter v. US, US v. Jones.

For the cameras of government, businesses, or government:business partnerships?

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