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And they will be so severely targeted to you that you won't be able to identify that they are designed to influence your purchasing or voting decisions. And they will be of production quality rivaling the highest budget films - rendered on your own hardware.

Every ad since the dawn of time was designed to influence your purchasing decisions

But you could identify them as ads and understand their purpose.

That will soon likely no longer be the case.


I submit that most people haven't been able to do that for some time now. Advertising wouldn't be such big business if it didn't work on a macro scale.

Nobody is saying advertisement doesn’t work.

Nowadays with so much "viral hacking" and "guerilla marketing", you have to be mindful about all content you consume

Perhaps only half of "ads" are actually marked as such

So, it won't change that much from today, the difference won't be as big as the difference between 2000s ads and today


How would we know if we can't identify them and they don't tell us? The ads are among us...

This was already lost with product placements in movies/TV shows.

Product placement is the most obvious form of "subversive" advertising you could have chosen.

My 17yo niece shows me Nike ads on her phone, and when I ask her why she’s showing me ads, she gets upset and tells me they’re not ads — they’re web experiences.

What is obvious to you/us is not obvious to most..


I mean, sure, some advertisers might get more sophisticated. The garbagefest of internet advertising won't go anywhere, though. It'll still be as bleak and obnoxious as always, because someone will always accept a buck to let you barrage their visitors' eyes and ears.

“The ads will get so good you won’t realize they’re ads and you’ll end up buying all this stuff without awareness of why you’re doing it”

Do you actually think this is going to happen *to you* or are you just speculating about all the idiot dupes out there?


The gameplay _becomes_ the ad. If you have a full sash of potions in every slot, they spell "C","O","K","E". The monster-bashing sounds sound like onomatopoetic "Apple!" "Goog!". The armor colors are the same as the NFL teams nearest your locale!

It will be a nightmare! haha


Dont be silly, it will be on the companies hardware. We're pushed to a rent to "use" model in so many things now.

Subtle product placements tailored specifically for you will be injected into movies and TV

Most cutting edge technologies through history did not have near-peer widely-deployed open competitors. This technology does.

  > There is no reason we aren’t working seven days a week beyond people fighting not to.
Religious edict - most prominently the Sabbath in Western civilization - have mandated a day of rest every seventh day for at least 3000 years.

Did religious edict also eliminate child labor, give us more humane working hours, and establish labor laws? Or was that because of unions?

Religious edict certainly helped a lot.

There were church mandated holidays in the Middle Ages. Lots of them.

The current pope chose his name to signal his continuation of Pope Leo XVIII's teachings on worker's rights, particularly the papal encylical Rerum Novarum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rerum_novarum

During the industrial revolution many people treated their workers better because of their religious belief - the Quaker industrialists of Britain are a prominent example.

Just off the top of my head examples.


Only replying to you since everyone else is making the same points.

I follow a religion with similar edicts (not Christian). I also understand the contributions made by Christianity in this area. But the fact of the matter is that religion was ultimately unable to force actual widespread change on the ground, especially not in secularized European states.

At the end of the day, the only true religion that industrialists and capitalists understand is money. Only unions were able to speak their language at a very large scale, and this is the language they ultimately had to listen to :)


Deuteronomy 24:14-15 says not to oppress a poor hired worker and requires his wages to be paid the same day, before sunset.

Both, actually! Nonconformist Christianity was one of several key influences on the labour movement ideologically speaking. At least in the UK the Labour Party is often said to owe more to Methodism than Marx for its original ideological foundations. There's a long history of this, in the aftermath of the English Civil War a group called the Diggers more or less independently invented agrarian socialism out of the New Testament, and a great deal of calls for humane conditions for workers over the centuries were motivated explicitly by Christian teachings. The New Testament is pretty clear in its condemnation of repressing workers, James 5 for example:

> Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.

This isn't an exclusive or situation, nonconformist religious influence helped create the ideological environment that allowed unions to exist in the first place.


No.

I answered one incorrect statement. Why try to pile the world on a single statement.


Sure but proper weekends are much much more recent.

But far away enough that we need to look at this again and get more time back to the workers.


That was one of the methods people used to fight for it, yes.

I would say they his theory is quite supported by my own experience - which is a form of ad hoc experiment.

Because it was there

None of the wealthy people I know had wealthy parents. Most of them had parents who didn't even have shoes for significant periods of time.

"Wealthy people" alone is also consistent with "not many people". There aren't that many rich people in general, musicians or otherwise.

How about taking the full "do nothing" approach and leave the carbon under the seabed? Where it won't trap IR from escaping the atmosphere and adding energy to the atmosphere, driving ever-more energetic weather events.

K, global oil demand is expected to keep rising towards 120m bpd between now and 2050. We are not plateaued, much less reducing reliance on fossil fuels. We are actively leaning into our use of it every day of every month of every year. The production and retailing of the computer you used to type that message above and the energy demand to power it makes you complicit in that. In all of it. So you can talk all you want about dreams and fantasies, but every aspect of your life is impacted by society's capacity to meet energy demand. We almost drove whale species to extinction and nearly deforested many states for biomass fuels before we discovered how to refine fossil fuels at scale and employ them. Hardly a world I want to return to. Fossil fuels are here, they're queer, and not going anywhere without massive tradeoffs that the global population is not willing to accept. The choices to back off energy demand are so bleak they're unrealistic. Sorry I don't have solutions that haven't already been thought of (resilient solar, nuclear), but really all you and I can do that's effective is vote for new energy generation and storage solutions and the policies that enable them and lead the way. The talking part doesn't do much except use more energy.

How much oil would they have to burn for fuel to do that? Neither option sounds good for the environment.

Don't know why you're down voted, good question :-)

  > the Bouba evokes curvature because it makes me think of a Baobab tree.
Or a bubble.

It's from a PIE root and found in one form or another in most European languages.

And interestingly it's often related to circle and bread in many languages:

Pi, Pie, Pide, Pita, Pizza, Piadina, Pirog (Russian for "pie"), Piscina (circular basin), Pipe.

Also, some Russian words for organs that have to do with piss (which are naturally circular) also start with "Pi".


"PIE" in this sense being an abbreviation for "Proto Indo-European".

Missed that, but so apt anyway!

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