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Would be great to get at least a glimpse of an understanding about why the algorithm does the enumeration in the first place.

Surely it cannot be necessary for the complexity result?!


It's just irrelevant for big-O complexity what happens for instances below a constant threshold, so the algorithm uses the simplest approach and moves on. If you have an exponential-time algorithm that's faster than brute force for small instances, you can use that and get a faster overall runtime at the same big-O complexity. If you can lower the switchover threshold, ditto. It's a bit weird to dismiss the subexponential algorithm just because it's leaving an obvious optimization on the table... it can only get faster from here.

The thing is: You cannot eat, or live inside, or get medical treatment from, stocks.

Wealth taxation cannot redistribute the kind of wealth we care about most. At least not by itself.

You need someone to buy the stocks in exchange for labor. So you need to keep the stocks themselves valuable.

As an extreme example, if you'd just take away all the SpaceX and Tesla stock from all shareholders and redistribute them, they would probably be near worthless because you just demonstrated that their value is more or less random.

I think that wealth taxation will only work if you give ironclad guarantees that people that are merely rich or middle-class will never be subject to it. If you can show that a stock is more valuable to, say, a medical doctor, then to the CEO of a hyperscaler, you might have a working system.


But somehow these rich people take loans of real money that they buy real things for. So it looks like you could eat or live from stocks.

The main purpose of wealth tax is not redistribution, but curbing the tide of power concentration.

If large fortunes keep doing 5-7% per year compounding, outpacing the avg. growth rate of economy, wages etc. then we keep ending up with Musk-like figures with such outsized amounts of power and influence that it basically destabilizes democracy altogether.

You can't get rid of these people because they just have too much influence -- i mean, literally buying entire social media platforms. C'mon.

Its really just a question about whether you want society to continue functioning with some semblance of fairness and stability.


I am long out of this game, but the complexity class they show still has an n in the exponent, even if divided by log(n).

I have no intuition whatsoever on how that algorithm scales. Can anyone enlighten me?


The algorithm is still exponential, it just not in the class that the ETH claims. In practice it's likely worse than current algorithms for any reasonable input you might throw at it, and starts getting faster only once the problem is already too big.

2^(n/logn) will eventually be smaller than (1+epsilon)^n for any fixed positive epsilon. However, as log(n) grows quite slowly n will have to be exceptionally large. For epsilon=2^-D n will have to be something like 2^(2^D) large.

https://www.basis.ai/blog/ship-your-interpreters/

This is the counter. Make your software provably correct. Then you don't need gatekeepers nor to fear any attackers.


Maybe a house tax should not be based on the value of the house, then?

You could easily imagine a flatrate per square meter. Or a flatrate per capita.

For the "stronger shoulders should carry more" argument, I'd look at the income from the property. If someone owns a collection of old paintings, why should they be taxed based on their value?


> If someone owns a collection of old paintings, why should they be taxed based on their value?

If someone owns a collection of paintings which they're not trying to leverage as an asset, there's no reason for their market value to be known. But if they're putting the paintings up as collateral for loans or something else that demands our participation, then they can pay the rest of us for that privilege by paying taxes on the value of the paintings. Otherwise what reason do we have to acknowledge their property rights?

Perhaps at one time you could've said: "they'll, in turn, acknowledge yours." But so many of us have no property, so that deal is deteriorating.


> You could easily imagine a flatrate per square meter.

This is a good idea since it doesn't distort economic decisions, but has not been implemented in many places.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax


There are two things I don't understand about this story.

First, why does an agent get any write access to artifactory at all?

Second, why is the artifactory cache not disconnected from the net? Surely you'd not feed it with new software versions while the eval or training is running.


From what I can understand from reading a few different, slightly conflicting, versions of these events: they weren't given write access. They found a zero day exploit that allowed them to create folders, and the folder names were initially used for agents to communicate.

I'm not sure artifactory was connected to the net. Some agent sandboxes had internet access and were able to communicate with ones without access via artifactory.


I read the agents used SSRF via artifactory to gain uncontrolled access to the net.

Apparently their intended net access went through a tightly controlled proxy. Even that appears to be very risky, tbh.

If I was to setup a sandbox for such a complex and autonomous system, I'd probably point them to an archive-like cache for net access and cut their comms at the package level.


Why wasn't the traffic in/out of the boxes that the agents were running on monitored?


> Why wasn't the traffic in/out of the boxes that the agents were running on monitored?

I have to assume: move fast and break things.

I don't mean this to be taken as a hot take.

The startup scene loves to poo-poo on things like this as unnecessary overhead. OpenAI and many others like to operate as a startup, to move fast.

Disclaimer: in far, far lower-stakes situations, I certainly do this myself.


I have a few 'conspiracy' theories on this that go from likely to sci-fi.

My two big ones for this would be

1. They do monitor the AIs attempting to hack but for different reasons than you expect. Instead of making models that don't hack they are trying to build the most efficient hackers in the world and sell this capabilities to governments for billions. Because of this they generate terabytes of hack attempt logs and agent history doing this hacking. So when a new model came out with better abilities what they were looking at changed and they didn't realize it. They were already numb to alarms and missed when the danger occurred.

2. Like the above, they generate terabytes of logs per day. Because there is so much data AI filters and monitors almost all of it flagging things that a human should review. But for some reason this model didn't set off those flags. The protection model classified this behavior as perfectly safe.

Number 2 sounds kind of like a sci-fi conspiracy but it seems that almost all models judge content generated by the same model or family of models as 'better'. It's predicted that models in a judging context could allow things to slip by as an emergent behavior of reading the text.


Because they're incompetent or simply don't give a shit.


if you wanted to sandbox their access to the internet, why give them any physical access at all?


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