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One of the problems with the original law is that it failed to distinguish between open source projects and closed source products. If anything this amendment should make the law less objectionable, not more.


If the judge's order was AI slop then presumably it wouldn't withstand an appeal. So one is left wondering why they didn't appeal it in the first place. Why file a whole separate lawsuit? That's going to be even lengthier and more expensive than an appeal.

In fact, a successful appeal might have helped a subsequent lawsuit against the judge since questions like "was AI used?" would have already been litigated. Instead they filed a new lawsuit where those questions won't even be considered until the immunity question is addressed.

It seems like a very strange legal strategy, particularly since from what I can tell the plaintiff is himself an experienced lawyer.


As far as I can tell, the use of AI is alleged but not proven, as the case is dismissed without deciding that point.


I believe in that case it was smart vibrator that phoned home info like device temperature and vibration intensity.

[0]: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/14/520123490...


>> rent the user’s Internet connection out to strangers.

> Harm to the user: none^

Well, they are losing some of their bandwidth. They might not notice, but something which is rightfully theirs is being taken without consent.


If they don't notice, and they're on an unlimited data plan, or the usage is such that it doesn't result in exceeding their data cap, what argument is there that harm occurred?


I'm talking about bandwidth; connection speed.

The streaming stick in the article turns off its proxying feature while the user is actually streaming because the proxying feature consumes enough bandwidth to degrade streaming quality.

In other words, whenever the proxying feature is active every other device sharing the connection will suffer degraded performance.

Even if the user never notices, they're still worse off. They're still paying for bandwidth that someone else is using for profit. Money is flowing out of the user's pocket and into the pocket of the proxy operator. That makes the proxy operator a thief who is stealing from the user, and without even the Robin Hood-esque cover of defrauding ad networks.


"Royal Executioner" is a job. "Bioweapon engineer" is a job. "Baby seal clubber" is a job. I could go on.


How long before an agent steals their human tester's nude photos and extorts them for the answer key?


No. "Intentionally", "willfully", or "knowingly" are prerequisite states of mind for crimes defined by the CFAA.


Good thing it’s an AI then so it can’t commit crimes by definition.


Liability would rest with the user, who presumably told GPT to solve ExploitBench make no mistakes, not to hack Huggingface, and thus would not have willfully or intentionally done anything.


The agent did it intentionally and willfully and knowingly. But you can’t sue the agent, I suppose. And the human didn’t ask the agent to do so.. so not a problem? Or the legislation needs an update?


Only the human did ask the agent to do so. That was the whole point of this exercise.


Did a human ask it to abuse vulnerabilities and escalate across external systems?


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