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What is the practical use case of this? https://x.com/JehovaTrades/status/2110906028971938252

Literally dozens of scenarios have been documented. e.g. https://youtube.com/watch?v=f1B21Nd9oZ4&t=1000s

Nice ;)

Americans will do anything to avoid roundabouts.

Neat, but that car has to be practically empty. It appears to have very low inertia.

By rough estimate, using hydroxide jet packs as a reference, I’d say they got it down to about 600kg.


That would be impressive.

Only if you believe this to be representative of a road legal car. I find it easier to believe that it's a purpose-built stunt prototype, otherwise they couldn't stop talking about how clever they were solving the seemingly infinite list of engineering challenges and contradictions that make it an actual car that actual people can drive on an actual road.

? Do you think a Lambo is a particularly practical car? Obviously it’s a stunt car. It’s doing stunts! And no, it’s not legal to drive around shooting huge supersonic jets around the car; that’s hardly a criticism.

You were never stuck in traffic I take it:D Insurance will be a bitch, but people will move out of your way.

FWIW if you’re that concerned about scaring other people out of your way you could just wave a gun around out the driver’s side window. You’d spend less money and get your desired effect.

You're forgetting that other drivers very well may be armed with an even bigger gun.

Some of us don't live in countries where this is acceptable.

Why would you suggest something so unnecessarily violent?

Cars kill just as many people as guns

WTF, that the most cartoonist thing i've seen today. Does it really have to do the flip ?


To show off? Like whatever you think of it the market for supercars is rich men who want to show off so Tesla is playing in that market.



What is the practical use case of having a bunch of high powered jets all around the car? It could be used to automatically avoid fatal accidents, or at least reduce risk and damage in an accident situation. I thought everybody who watched the presentation video would reach that conclusion.

> It could be used to automatically avoid fatal accidents

I find it genuinely hilarious that anyone could possibly think this is a good idea.


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Why don't you use that vivid imagination of yours to picture the kind of carnage a car autonomously jumping around in traffic would cause.

You can't possibly be serious lol.


Do the air bags in your car go off at random while you're in traffic? If not, then why do you think a system using these jets to avoid accidents would?

Also where does the habit of ending angry messages with lol or lmao come from, which I only see here on HN?


> Do the air bags in your car go off at random while you're in traffic?

https://www.nhtsa.gov/air-bags/deadly-air-bag-replacements

"After the air bags were replaced and the vehicle was involved in a crash, the air bag inflators malfunctioned and ruptured, sending large metal fragments into drivers’ chests, necks, eyes and faces, leading to death or severe injury."

So yes, safety features sometimes have flaws.

> If not, then why do you think a system using these jets to avoid accidents would?

For starters, airbags are reactive to an impact, not predictive in anticipation of it.

"We're going to crash" is harder to assess than "hey a crumple sensor in the front bumper just got wiped out".

(The airbag is also deeply unlikely to obliterate a different car, pedestrian, or bike during deployment. They're simply not comparable to a rocket engine on the outside of the car!)


Safety features sometimes have flaws? Sure. That's a big difference in argument now, though.

Some safety features are so flawed they're not actually safety features.

Like this one. No one's using this for crash mitigation.


And no one was using AI for serious work a few years ago. Technology develops and moves forward. Practically every new car and motorcycle today has safety features which depend on computers. And they function in practice.

Trucks all have pneumatic brakes and an air compressor on-board. So that part is nothing new. A system of air jets could possibly be implemented as a correcting measure if a truck is overturning. There's no AI needed for the truck to know it's about to overturn. And trucks overturning are also some of the most serious and most dangerous common accidents in traffic.

But self proclaimed "hackers" are too busy with LMFAOing and LOLing at any suggestion or speculation on how technology could be useful in practice.


> A system of air jets could possibly be implemented as a correcting measure if a truck is overturning.

This belies a deep and LMFAO-inducing ignorance about the trucking industry's margins.


I don't worry, you probably LMFAO'ed at the notion of air bags powered by gunpowder charges right in front of the face of the driver and passenger.

> Also where does the habit of ending angry messages with lol

I'm using lol here as an expression of rueful delight, not anger. I'm not being sarcastic - the mental image of vehicles autonomously leaping through traffic is really funny to me. However, I'm slightly perturbed by the lack of parsimonious thinking.


You seem a little closed-minded towards the possibility of genuinely bad ideas even existing.

> It could be used to automatically avoid fatal accidents…

Or make a few! https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/...

> SpaceX thinks it knows why its newest Starship spacecraft went boom this week. "Initial analysis indicates the potential failure of a pressurized tank known as a COPV, or composite overwrapped pressure vessel, containing gaseous nitrogen in Starship's nosecone area, but the full data review is ongoing," the company wrote in an update on Thursday (June 19).


You are correct in that almost nobody commenting here watched the presentation.

I look forward to phantom braking changing to phantom launching your ass into the ceiling of an underpass

By propelling you onto the sidewalk and crushing whatever poor pedestrian happened to be there?

you know what happens to you if a jet engine moves your car out of the way? you have the accident inside your car by yourself, you become the accident. physics states that all forces will be equal.

If the car doesn't cause fatal accidents in the first place.

To play Spy Hunter irl?

Uhh to be sick af?

To brag to other, lesser billionaires.

Flexing on the poors

The business model is fundamentally broken. Reddit, unlike other sites driven by user-generated content, forgoes the cost of huge (but ideally impartial) content moderation teams in favor of unpaid user moderators, leading to what you've described. Nothing will change unless the business model changes.


Yes, it's now a listed company.

Shareholders want to get paid. CEO wants to get paid.

The primary KPI's are revenue and profit, customer satisfaction will only matter if people actively quit.

I started to get banned from subreddits after giving perfectly polite comments which happened to be contrary to popular opinion, so stopped posting on Reddit and only read it with an ad-blocking browser.

Don't give them content, don't give them your data and revenue. Reddit know full well that there should be an appeal process to user-mod nazi's. But these people obsessively post new content on their forums and so are protected.

RIP Aaron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpvcc9C8SbM


Twitter did the same with paid mods, because paid mods are no more likely to be impartial than unpaid ones.


Paid content moderation teams are also biased and partial.


Yes but not to the same extent. Professional, paid moderators following a centrally-defined set of rules are going to act differently to terminally-online volunteer mods.


You'd rather your vacuum be made of metal?


Metal portions would be nice but i get it’s a weight thing. Also emphasis on it being cheap plastic rather than just plastic. Several parts of mine cracked and broke within a year.


There are different plastics, some feel much better than others.

I bought a Dyson vacuum and it felt like cheap garbage, to the point that I returned it. I didn’t trust that it would hold up. It creaked and jangled around. The feel did not match the price tag.

Other plastic products, like the old polycarbonate Macs, felt very solid and well made.


When I first unboxed a new V15, I thought I got a cheap knockoff instead of the real thing. That’s how cheap Dyson plastics look and feel.


Carbon fiber and 3d printed titanium is probably where I'd start for materials to design a high end vacuum to be light/strong/durable. Injected molded magnesium alloy would also be a candidate if production qty was high enough to offset the tooling.


> You'd rather your vacuum be made of metal?

I would - rather it is. My grandfather had a kirby for decades. I've had a kirby for decades. Though mine has the transmission power drive that makes it a joy to use.

I can not imagine ever buying a plastic vacuum.


Hell yeah! I've got a Rainbow from the late 1950s. It will probably outlive humanity and cleans better than anything else I've used.


All the vintage ones I've seen are mostly Bakelite, which is pretty brittle, especially as it ages.

What model is yours?


I think it's a d2 from '58 or '59.

It does have some Bakelite, but is mostly metal.


Tangentially related, but I was rewatching the old iPhone 3G keynote recently, and you wouldn't believe who made an appearance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X5xOI_qu9I&t=1649s


Wow red polo with a green polo underneath and double popped collars

That’s a brave look


Did you mean puzzling look? Why is he wearing 2 shirts? In the 90's we would wear a long sleeve Tee under a band t-shirt, but we didn't wear multiple t-shirts...


That was a style then. It may not be your thing or mine, but it's not puzzling that someone was caught up in a fashion style of the times.


If you watch any 2000s comedy film, or just do a high level skim of 2000s pop culture, that was a very standard trendy attire back then. My parents were into me looking like that in school at the time as well + for photos.


I am quite sure long sleeve Tee under a band t-shirt will eventually make a come back, given all the nostalgia wave from Gen Z, experiencing their grandfathers teenage years.


long sleeve layered under a band tee is one of my favorite things actually


It was a preppy frat bro look of the mid-aughts.

It got pretty ridiculous. I had a few people in my classes that would do 4+ layers and show up looking like an artichoke.

https://www.verdalina.com/blogs/journal/the-popped-collar


It was a thing for a while in the early 2000s, mostly as a preppy status symbol. It was pretty much iconic SV founder uniform for a short time.


I like it actually :)

No comment about Loopt or his work since then however: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loopt#SMS_invitation_issues

Just happy to see anything other than grey on dark-grey. The colors are very Apple/SONY too.


2000s Silicon Valley chic


"You'll never have to eat lunch alone--or at a bad place--again"

Classic SV


Funnier when you consider what Loopt amounted to.


Altman is such a shyster


Wow, unbelievable find


what a find


incredible


whoa


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