Actually... Server can detect if you are piping or not and serve a modified version for inspection.

But really, there is no reason not to use prebuilt packages for distribution. Curlpiping needs to die.

At first I thought “this sounds like bullshit” but then found https://web.archive.org/web/20230408195648/https://www.idont...

Package distribution is the best solution but why would you download the install script a second time?

Why don't you? No time like now.

Very few phones have good enough upstream Linux support to run Nura as a daily driver. It's an active area of research but getting something where you have a working camera, phone calls and reliable sleep/resume has become somewhat of a white whale.

I haven't checked in a while, but I've dabbled in Linux phones for years now so I'd be surprised if it changed that much since last I looked.

> Nowadays I would attribute their response to chatbots considering how elaborated and friendly, but yet totally useless their messages were, but this was before LLMs

Outsourcing was a predecessor of LLMs.

That is a good point, but the problem with ML/AI is that anyone can do it. It will be difficult to stem this tide.

Thought Emporium is a YouTube channel that has showcased garage gene editing - with some equipment.

Also, how does this number (53%) compare to pre-LLM numbers?

I definitely would not have steered people away earlier, but would be now.

I would steer people toward tech at this time (specifically software engineering) because I think the "steering people away" thing has gone too far. Already there is data that college students are pivoting away from CS majors en masse.

And how are you certain that whatever else you're going into is more AI proof? Are you certain that law, healthcare, business consulting, accounting, finance, traditional engineering, and various other things that smart people are pivoting to instead of CS are not going to see demand reduction? If anything, I would wager that everything except developing software is going to be at risk, and the demand for software engineers is at the cusp of exploding.

Now is the most exciting time to be a software engineer since the mid 00s.

Which doesn't mean they didn't escape.

Agree! My only concern is - is the judicial system fast enough, and resilient enough? Or will these creators get "off the hook" by using their agents to find loopholes, sway public opinion or even convince Trump to grant them immunity?

Still, I have no idea why OpenAI & co. are not being sued for these hacks.

My opinion and based on my observations: The recent track record with courts, prosecutors, and lawmakers keeping social media companies accountable is a relevant case and does not encourage me. It has taken a long time (decade +) for society to recognize the harms and finally start holding some to (partial) account. If you want an older precedent, the tobacco companies were able to dodge liability for multiple decades after knowing the harms from use of their products.

So, your question is spot on- I think the speed will be an issue. On resilience, I am more optimistic.

The old quote, "The wheels of justice turn slowly, but they grind very fine" (as well as I can remember it) seems to apply. I expect lawsuits to start landing in the coming years.

Tobacco companies 'liability' is completely different scenario.

They were held responsible for basically misleading people, and that's 'complicated'.

If OpenAI 'software' goes out and does something, it's OpenAI's fault.

If Walmart revs up a truck, points it downtown, and 'lets the truck go' ... that is Walmart's fault.

There's nothing complicated about liability, no need to see their internal emails, no need to gather 'intent'.

This not like Instagram 'social harms' either, which is more like Tobacco.

We don't need complicated thinking - agents are not externalized for their controllers.

'It's just software'.

The fact we're even having discussions about it just crazy frankly.

OpenAI broke into HuggingFace, that's it.

HF can sue them, or not, or whatever.

> Agree! My only concern is - is the judicial system fast enough, and resilient enough?

We already have the laws. It is just software. But somehow people are confused that it is not.

"Move fast and break things" was supposed to break your own things, not other people's.

Whoever said that failed to recognise there's precious little separation.

Wow, that's genius. Basically, user gets a VPN but so does provider, in a sense.

The agents also overload you with walls of text, always including lots of less relevant information. It's like they want you to give up and let them drive.