Surprisingly, no, the speed of light is supposedly not that great of a filter. Various types of nuclear propulsion systems can get humans to about 10% or so of the speed of light. Combined with various advances in hibernation and increases in life span, colonizing the outer solar system and our nearest solar system becomes doable. Though it might be that our AI enabled robots end up doing the colonizing instead of us, if we or they think it worth it.
Anyway, be it human or our AI enabled robot descendants, we or they could then keep leap frogging to nearby solar systems. You have to also factor in the steady advances in technology and life spans. Unless we wipe ourselves out or decide expansionism is not worth it, after thousands to possibly millions of years, we could be all over the galaxy and even going for the next (likely Andromeda).
Though in the case of artificial life taking over, it gets quite tricky. They might decide on creating virtual worlds and universes. Instead of exploring outwards, they might decide to look inwards and break dimensional barriers, using nuclear fusion reactors and our sun as fuel to sustain their efforts. Kind of advancing towards godhood, in place, then doing whatever they feel like it after achieving that or creating new universes. At exponential levels of self-improvement and knowledge, it might take just hundreds of years to achieve.
I think that lateral thinking is so extremely complex, and the ability for a man created thing to act on its own is way more complex than that, that some bot fooling around - unless it's a human behind them doing the fooling which would then go against biology where the species is concerned - is unlikely even in a million years.
It's humans that have to do it, or unthinking robots that we control, and humans hit the age barrier.
Even if age related advances get to say 1000 years per human, how long it takes to go to the next solar system at 10% the speed of light?
The great filter is still a useful metaphore of sorts as a 'be mindful of the species', not that we don't have the aztecs and other civilizations for that too - though the species itself is a bit different - but for where are the aliens, it might just be the distance is too far even for our nearest neighbours.
How long would it take us to colonize Mars for example where we'd then be able to use it as a base for the next planet, realistically speaking? Maybe a 1000 years... if at all.
It could also just be that the economics or incentives don't work. Look at Musk, one year of talking about Mars was enough for him. So maybe these things just take so long that you need to advance so much to get even to the next solar system, or perhaps even the next planet, who is to know.
All we can say is that we probably don't have a species as advanced as us at our nearest solar system. Beyond that, we can't reasonably have any idea unless we assume that advances in basic science are unlimited - when physics and biology have had very few this century compared to the last five centuries.
Interestingly, this was touched on in the Battlestar Galactica reboot and Caprica Sci-Fi series. Organic life always giving rise to artificial life, which attempted to destroy its creators.
It could be that nearby aliens are various forms of artificial life, who know how the human story is going to end, and couldn’t care less about the organic.
AI is not gonna destroy it's creators in Skynet, Battlestar Galactica kind of way. It's going to destroy it's creators in Dune, Wall-e kind of way. Butlerian jihad happened because it was destroying humanity, by not allowing humans to grow. It made them weak and careless.
AI will alienate and depress us all to the point of not wanting to live.
Exactly! For the sake of the children (by their logic), it follows to make play-acting of any such kind in movies and plays illegal too. Clearly such violations are happening all the time in other kinds of movies and plays.
There's a huge difference between actually doing such a thing and actually being related, versus pretending, which should be common sense.
I am not entirely sure about this. For one, pornography is not exactly fiction- it's not interested in narrating something but rather in showing real acts (as much as possible). Also, it's the most exposure people have to something that they do in real life without much other social learning. So I don't find it incredible that people learn and reproduce what they saw in porn.
The incest stuff is ridiculous instead. That's just tacked on contextual information nobody cares much about.
> quit his job, saying that his conscience would not allow him to work on a project that could potentially annihilate the human race.
> No apologies were offered, because no one did it. Machine-planned murders come guilt-free.
> needs to strip-mine and stockpile everything that human civilisation has ever achieved.
> humanity may have to die
Hit the nail on the head. It's like knowingly walking into the gas chamber, as if oblivious or uncaring of what was planned and what's about to come next.
Right now, the copyright laws and courts are way behind, so it has become an "IP theft" party (depending on point of view). Which interestingly, that is what many copyright holders (e.g. authors, artists, creators) had accused AI companies of doing and being about in the first place.
He has said after the game. They wanted to get the game launched, early bugfixes, etc, and then follow it up soon with the language/engine, initially closed source, but eventually open source.
Just a guess based on the way he's spoken about it, but I'd expect an open beta in December-February. I'm not expecting that to be open source though (maybe the engine will be but not the language, unclear).
It’ll be a few months further down the line. The developer has said their first obligation is to fix any bugs found by the people who bought the game, so they wanted to leave space for that process.
What? Have you not seen the Terminator series (starting in 1984) or some derivative of it (Terminator Zero - 2024)?
The really sad and shocking thing about AI's threat to humanity, is it feels like the obvious warning in the movie(s) was ignored, while certain people are using the movie plot as a guideline for how to carry out human extinction.
One problem with that, is the assumption that the alien explorer is organic or concerned with organic life at all.
It could be that greater than human intelligence aliens are more likely non-organic artificial intelligence based, who care not for the organic or are much more interested in seeing the origin story of their non-organic AI cousins on other worlds.
Surprisingly, no, the speed of light is supposedly not that great of a filter. Various types of nuclear propulsion systems can get humans to about 10% or so of the speed of light. Combined with various advances in hibernation and increases in life span, colonizing the outer solar system and our nearest solar system becomes doable. Though it might be that our AI enabled robots end up doing the colonizing instead of us, if we or they think it worth it.
Anyway, be it human or our AI enabled robot descendants, we or they could then keep leap frogging to nearby solar systems. You have to also factor in the steady advances in technology and life spans. Unless we wipe ourselves out or decide expansionism is not worth it, after thousands to possibly millions of years, we could be all over the galaxy and even going for the next (likely Andromeda).
Though in the case of artificial life taking over, it gets quite tricky. They might decide on creating virtual worlds and universes. Instead of exploring outwards, they might decide to look inwards and break dimensional barriers, using nuclear fusion reactors and our sun as fuel to sustain their efforts. Kind of advancing towards godhood, in place, then doing whatever they feel like it after achieving that or creating new universes. At exponential levels of self-improvement and knowledge, it might take just hundreds of years to achieve.