Looking at CRM tools these days and they are so complicated that I’m thinking of just using my tool and add features as I need them.

Would love to hear advice from people who use CRM tools on the job.

laddergoat still up there though

Wait I always thought terra was the smaller model and the further away you went in space the bigger the model (luna is further away so it’s better than terra)

the amount of copium here, things are slow to move we get it, but thinking that AI is not going to disrupt everything is... some next level denial

I think the question discussed here is more: it didn't disrupt everything in ~four years, will it take another two, five or twenty?

You’re assuming that we’re doing more than combining ideas we already know when we’re being “creative”

Sorry if this sounds rough, computer science is probably only about combination, but there are many other fields

Why would this sound rough? Do you know a field where creation is more than that?

It’s well known that many people think all art is merely copy of a copy, so I’d be curious what field you’re thinking about

Sorry if this sounds rough, no.

Saying that is like saying everything is about combination because well, it is even the creative stuff if you are pedantic.

The wibbily wobbly dna of humans is how we keep recombining things into new shit. Comp sci absolutely has deep creativity in it.

DNA is so many layers below human cognition, it's a bit like explaining the Moon landing's technology by a stick burning.

There is absolutely no DNA recombination during a thought process.

i meant reproduction? not that thinking was doing it but that each person would have some unique aspect to their thinking based on dna and env.

At least in arts, there is a true "creative" element complicated to replicate at least in the current LLMs. True artistic invention involves a "spirit of rule-breaking" that pushes culture forward. If AI is only being trained on past data, it then struggles to make the non-linear, revolutionary creative jumps we've seen throughout history.

For instance, the transition of music from the 1950s to the Beatles, then to Nirvana, hip-hop, and beyond. Before Beatles, there wasn't such thing as Beatles. Before Nirvana, there wasn't anything that sounded like that. Of course you can point out underground bands doing something like that around that era, but stray way back in time to like 1940s and chances of hearing something like Nirvana are near zero.

True art is not easy to make. It is, rather, difficult. If you lower the difficulty to make art, then it is not already a piece of art. It is just another product down the line of plenty of copy cats. Art involves risk taking that AIs I don't think are capable of producing. Art is a medium to express human emotions, and the inherent concept here is that it will end up being consumed by another human being, and it has value because you know that another human being was on the other side of the table making it. Even if you do something you consider art for yourself with an AI, the human being on the other side was, well... you. You prompted it and you guided it. I don't believe people in general would be contempt with an endless stream of autonomous AI generated stuff (if they invent such loop) because it would not only be generic, repetitive and predictable at some point, but also the fact that you know its AI it destroys the whole vibe. Same as if you get an email and you don't know if it was an AI or human behind it. If it was a human being, great, you feel a connection there. If it was AI, well... that sucks to no end, and I guess that is for a very good reason.

Although I'm using art here as the argument for creativity, I believe there may be something analogous to scientific leaps and discoveries. To my understanding, people who seem to be fairly successful in uncover the truths of the universe via science also happen to be pretty good when it comes to some artistic endeavors, even if its only about consuming and appreciating art and not necessarily creating it. So, there might be some link in creativity there. I'm open to be wrong, of course. Creativity is about risk taking and pushing the edges, not re-iterating upon what's been already there.

I was thinking of the art when I wrote that btw. All art is imitation.

I want to add onto that true art requires true subjective experience, which AI lacks.

You don’t know and you don’t even have a way of knowing that. We can’t even establish it for humans. Either way it matters not one bit.

What if van Gogh turned out in hindsight to actually not have had “subjective experience”? Would this diminish his art? It now no longer “true”?

Since when? I tried a few days ago and it still asked me “do you want to use ChatGPT?”

Wait but you can right? I've definitely stop paying services in the past like that. They usually send you to collection, and then one day they just stop sending you mail.

You can open a chargeback dispute. But you have to send documentation. And your credit card company requires that you contact the merchant out-of-band first... which is the thing we shouldn't have to do.

Opening a dispute is like stopping payment on a check. It's refusing to pay, not asking to cancel.

You managed to find something to complain about this story?

I spent hours trying to cancel some services with legalzoom last month, they clearly go through every shady tactics in the book to prevent you from cancelling, these companies are horrendous and this needs to be enacted as a national law

My guess is users, they must have had a MASSIVE user growth since they have launched to justify this