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> the Hilbert space is real-valued and therefore (a vector of) ℵ₁.

But cardinality of real numbers might not be ℵ₁. It's literally unprovable in ZFC.


I had to look this up, and if I understand right: yes, all that's certain is |ℝ| = ℵₖ, k≥1? If so, same point applies.

> a Christmas card sent with a swastika and “Heil Hitler”, and an email thread signed off with “Heil und Sieg”

Ahh, old good mild conservatism.


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That is an interesting moral compass you got there. Be a shame if anything happened to it.

Don't worry, they can just throw it away when it becomes inconvenient.

Shooting the messenger is fun and all but maybe you should place your killing instincts on something more worthy of its target…Jesus Christ

I could have gone in the other direction with

  And what is good, Phaedrus,
  And what is not good—
  Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?

Surely you must realize how absurd your line of thinking is. Far left and far right are not labels based on popularity! Communism is still far left ideology if you live in communist country, same with fascism being far right.

> Im going to say this again, the "pure math" academic types need to get a grip. Plenty of your peers got PHD's and happily made a fortune in finance, while screwing the world (See 2008 housing bubble) and none of you said a peep about that.

They call it the most populist post of all time.


There's not reason to think that it has to be same this time. If AI becomes better than humans at cognitive work, what extra jobs would get created?

Whilst I agree it’s not conclusive to assume that just bc something happened the way it did in the past it will happen again. I think there’s still 'reason to believe'.

My answer to your job is that more jobs move from secondary to tertiary sector (entertainment). That has happened usually.


Yeah, as always in AI hard things are easy and easy things are hard. How many times have I heard condescending comments from programmers that radiologists are just about to be replaced by AI. And well, AI turned out to get kind of okayish at programming much faster than being acceptable at being radiologist.

They are not, opus 5.5 level intelligence will be dirt cheap in a year or two (in non-subsidized api pricing).

Aren’t waymos actually much safer and have less incidents per mile compared with human drivers? (Yes, they are and yes they do)

No. If these tools could do your work, people would feel existential dread anyway. It doesn’t matter at all if they are coworkers or tools (I really don’t see why would it ever matter).

> If these tools could do your work, people would feel existential dread anyway.

That is, if your entire self worth is tied to your work.

I think we should consider moving away from that notion.


> That is, if your entire self worth is tied to your work.

No. It's also if you take pride in your work and your self worth is partially based on that. And I think there's nothing wrong with that (quite contrary - I think it's great).


I've asked Argon to do 3D model for me. It said that it can't do it. I've linked promotional materials and said that it actually can. It agreed and got me a model (not a great one). Man, why is Gemini like this? Every time I fall for the hype I get disappointed.

> Nothing about AI (other than the statements of people with lots of shares in AI companies) looks to be any different.

Everything looks to be a lot different. Once AI is better than humans at knowledge work, why would you even keep human in the loop? (That's assuming AI reaches the level of being better than humans - I'm not arguing for that assumption, but about it's consequences and that in this scenario we won't get much new jobs).


You might not always, just as we don't always keep humans in the loop when picking groceries for delivery[0]. Great. But that doesn't mean we can do that en masse.

You can give a workman a power tool and he shouldn't instantly assume that his housebuilding job is under threat, because corporations will build a house-building power tool.

Why won't he think that? Two reasons: 1) any tool that becomes more powerful tends to become more specialised and expensive to operate, so an electric drill doesn't scale to a house-building drill without incredible tradeoffs, and 2) he isn't reading a million breathless class warfare-igniting articles whose writers are paid through attention.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKrcpa8Z_E


> any tool that becomes more powerful tends to become more specialised and expensive to operate,

Isn't that exactly what is different about AI automation? AI is more generalized and cheaper to operate.


The comparison to worker with power tools is not great. Power tools are not replacing workers and it's absurd to think that drill would build house. If you wanted honest comparison you'd pick robots (and since we are talking about situation where AI is superior to humans in all knowledge work, then for that comparison to work robots would have to be superior to humans in all physical labour). Would robots displace that worker in this situation? Yes. Would it create new jobs? Yes, obviously, e.g. servicing these robots. But that's another job that could be done by other robot. So in knowledge work - if AI was better at finding and solving problems, better at making decisions and better at all aspects of intellectual work - what kind of new job would you see being created here that wouldn't be better performed by AI?

And as I've noted above that's jus assumption (to show that AI is different than previous displacements), I'm not making actual claim that LLMs will be better at knowledge work than humans.


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