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Indeed, a couple of GUI forms on top of curl is right up there with electricity, antibiotics and sliced bread.

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I did! As a high school project. Literally, in high school, one of our assignments was to build a GUI that could make basic HTTP requests (GET and POST, and I think PATCH or something for extra credit) and display the result “nicely.”

Obviously not as full-featured as Postman or Bruno. But this is not something complicated or difficult or novel. My high school teacher had been using this as an assignment since the mid-2000s.


what's your MRR?

Because we don't have that special sort of brain that thinks turning such a simple useful tool into a commercial behemoth is a good idea? I doubt anyone there really things there is a useful purpose to it all, but they have to keep it in motion to keep their pay coming in.

the world is what you make of it. make something, sell it for exactly what you need to buy bread . I don't see why being so cynical is necessary.

Right now your boss has sold something, and pays you with the remainder. Is he a bad guy?

What's wrong if you did the same?


> the world is what you make of it.

Except for every single aspect of it that you don't have control over...


our ancestors were dying of disease, literally starving, fighting wild animals, fighting each other.

We're struggling to sell B2B Saas.

the world is what you make of it.


So humans have replaced fighting wild animals with a huge range of other stresses over multiple generations. That has zero bearing on your ability to change the world. Nobody has been directing this. False platitudes like this suit a simplistic view of the world.

ok what's your excuse then? better make it convincing. Someone give you a discouraging word once?

There is definitely a reasonable salary and team and infrastructure budget for 'Postman exists'. Its when that team takes 400M in capital and the labor hours of 1,500 people that could have been used for... well honestly literally anything else, that it becomes... well beyond parody really?

I don’t know a single developer who has an agent write 99% of their code. Is that the norm outside of my bubble?


I'm seeing another team doing this, with 99% agents, and quality, predictability of delivery and raw performance have taken a massive nosedive.

But even not caring about quality: Speed of development is abysmal. It was never something this team had anyway, they were always slow. So they don't care that they take a year and 20 people to do what another startup in the same space was able to deliver in a few months with a skeleton crew (and perhaps more quality).

To me the experiment has shown the results it should. It's self-serving to developers, and amplifies the good and the bad in them. It's not particularly good to users and not to companies if the developers aren't good themselves.


It's writing nearly all of the code where I work. It also reviews all of the code (I review it as well). You still have to guide it and hold its hand though. I dont write code by hand anymore (and haven't in almost a year). The job is now about managing the bots, understanding the architecture and keep everything aligned.


Do you enjoy it still (if you did before)?


Personally, I do enjoy it still. I'm able to focus more on architecture and the bigger picture now.


That’s a norm at my place as well. But it’s not free. We have definitely given up on quality (both code and general stability) and fully understanding what’s going on. People are generally working more as well, because of all the layoffs pressure.

Industry is betting that we don’t need to. I still consider it a bet because Claude Code this scale has become norm just for a year.


It writes all the code but we often have to go through several iterations. It won't work autonomously yet.


An agent writes 99% of the code. Then I fix some parts, re-arrange things, usually takes a few prompts. Then, there's code review, more changes, etc. But I hardly write code nowadays compared to a few years ago.


My whole company (I hate it).


You're right, no one has "an agent" writing 99% of the code. Now people have swarms of agents writing 99% of the code :)


The vast majority of work people do is basically supporting simple CRUD type apps.

CRUD apps have long been a solved problem long before AI, no one should be spending a lot of time dedicating their life to figuring out how to write a better CRUD app.

If your bubble consists of writing critical high performance applications or bleeding edge research, maybe you have a use case for not using AI, but that is not the norm.


Yes, that is my bubble, pretty much. Sounds like I’m at the right place then. Better enjoy it while it lasts.


Companies are heavily incentivized to do so so my guess would be yes. I also don't write the code by hand almost at all.


That is the norm where I work , heck I’d say 99% seems low


Yeap, one more data point here. Most of code here is AI generated with some handcrafted adjustments.


it's the norm in my bubble


Did it though? Most people young today probably never pressed a physical play/pause/stop button in their lives. Still, they get it. Some icons outlive their era, some don’t.

> In the 90s everybody knew how a paper book worked

I hope that’s still the case!


> Did it though? Most people young today probably never pressed a physical play/pause/stop button in their lives.

It's hard to call this an example of "skeuomorphism". Those icons were introduced on physical buttons with a certain meaning that everybody had to learn. They have exactly the same meaning on software buttons; the interaction that people have with them now is the same interaction that everybody has always had with them.

This isn't a case of the software appealing to a visual metaphor that made non-metaphorical sense before the software. It was just as much of a metaphor originally as it is now. You might as well call the word "edit" a skeuomorphism in modern software because past software also had "edit" menus.


> the interaction that people have with them now is the same interaction that everybody has always had with them

Right, that was my point. What does it matter what a diskette used to be? Unless something more obvious to convey storage/saving comes along, it’s hardly “crashing down” anytime soon.


The disk icon is skeuomorphic because it's a picture of storage media. That has now gone obsolete and, instead of being skeuomorphic, it's vestigial.

Play and pause icons aren't skeuomorphic. They're symbolic. There is no point at which they were a reference to some phenomenon earlier than or other than themselves.


Play, rewind and FF icons were referring to the physical movement of tape past the play head, back when you could see the tape. Don't know what pause came from. Maybe there was a pair of felt pads that would press the tape on either side of the head to keep it tensioned while preventing movement?


> Don't know what pause came from

The double-pipe pause symbol originates on the video side, where pausing keeps displaying a freeze-frame image, and stopping does not. Audio players had pause long before (which just causes the drive wheel to un-grip the tape), but used a variety of different symbols.


I guess even with the physical buttons you had to just learn that triangle means play and twin towers means pause


I guess even without the physical buttons you had to just learn that "play" means "engage the appropriate technical machinery".

> "[play] The meaning "to cause (a recording) to reproduce what is on it" is by 1903, probably from the "make music" sense." - https://www.etymonline.com/word/play


“we all would like corporations to share their products with us, but forcing us to pay because of their proprietary license is extremely anti-freedom to me”

No one is forcing you to do anything, and least of all which software licenses to depend on. If you don’t like something, choose something else. Freedom, you know?


As have Anthropic and OpenAI.


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