How did you use it? I was using it as "implementor" subagents orchestrated by opus 5.5 and it was pretty good and fast.

hehe, I also have done the same, but I'm building on top of tmux. Though much more minimal in scope. https://kido.tools (website showcases the TUI only but there's native macOS app in the PR which I'm using but still refining).

We should compare notes!

Nice! Feel free to check Thurm codebase on Github https://github.com/nklmilojevic/thurm

You meant Pragmata Pro :)

There's a lot to like about Pragmata Pro, but I'll never use a terminal font that isn't OFL.

why tho, berkeley mono ftw.

There's no limitation, just have bash commands `read` or `view_image` which communicate back to agent.

But doesn't Armin mention the limitation?

> If a multimodal model needs to read an image, it cannot use cat for that because the harness needs to inject the actual image payload into the protocol of the LLM.

Sorry, I'm just not familiar, but it sounds like there's a protocol the model expects when receiving images that bash does not support?

(This is Bonteq, I was just logged into the wrong account.)

it cannot use cat but you can make a command which communicates back to agent. Armin mentions that:

> While in theory the agent could provide a CLI tool that talks to the outer harness via environment variables and Unix sockets, it’s a rather crude process

But I don't know why it's crude to be honest. I'm running pi in tmux and have a CLI to prompt it from any shell session / neovim and it works good. So such way of communication is already needed besides codemode.

JS was chosen probably because (1) it's easy to sandbox (there's QuickJS) and (2) (my guess) some models are probably post-trained on JS Codemode.

> But I don't know why it's crude to be honest. I'm running pi in tmux and have a CLI to prompt it from any shell session / neovim and it works good. So such way of communication is already needed besides codemode.

It becomes much crummier when hands and brain are on different machines.

Agree, but this orthogonal to JS or bash question. (I mean can always run some bash locally as well, even wasm compiled one).

> Agree, but this orthogonal to JS or bash question.

It is not from my perspective because Codemode runs in the brain, and bash necessarily runs where the hands are. So if the hands need to reach into the brain, I need to set up a communication layer from the hands to the brain.