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a steepness penalty could make sense!

your example (from market & taylor to the top of nob hill) is a nice illustration: (1) straight up taylor is 229 ft of climbing at 25%, (2) via polk and california it's 251 ft at 13%.

as you probably noticed, we only look at the total elevation gain, so taylor "wins"... but I see the argument for preferring an extra 20ft of a more gradual climb.


thanks! address search uses the overture address feed, which is patchy (some blocks of 24th st have 5 numbers in it)… i'll make it fall back to the nearest known number on the street


Once I was visiting Yamaha’s Yokohama office for work, and I found a pedestrian path from my hotel to the office of ~2.5km that never touched a single roadway…

Google Maps absolutely failed.

Would be fun to rig up something for these cities. Which are you in btw?


fair point! it just doesn't know about bike lanes yet, I’ll see about getting the SFMTA bikeway network map from DataSF.


good point.. the slider trades distance against total climbing and nothing else. steepness is currently reported but not optimized.

seems like a worthy addition to the objective!


ah, I think this is related to SF's "Slow Streets" program and a genuine bug in the parser.

Cabrillo is a Slow Street, and the parser read its "destination-only" tag as closed to pedestrians, so the tool couldn't see the street at all (and started you a block over?). fixed and deployed; your trip should now go Cabrillo → 23rd → Geary.


Nice! This time it did find the best route. Indeed parts of Cabrillo is slow st.


“genuine bug in the parser” -> red flag for slop for those keeping track at home


Also "fixed and deployed; your trip should now go Cabrillo → 23rd → Geary". The snappy sentence at the start and the unicode arrows are both pretty big flags for AI writing.

Obviously it's fine to use AI for projects like these, but copy-pasting the response from a coding agent doesn't quite sit right with me.


No, as someone who writes a cycle routing engine by hand, this stuff is endemic when dealing with the trifecta of complex traffic regulations, inconsistent mapping data, and user preferences.


Looking at the repository [1], there are very strong signs for this being LLM generated. The README.md just smells of LLM tells, and Claude Code is being listed as "contributor".

I agree that the tone the parent commenter used wasn't the nicest but unfortunately, factually he is correct.

[1] https://github.com/almostimplemented/flattensf


No need to be a jerk.


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