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>Our legal system isn’t ready for machines that act on their own.

What absolute drivel.

Traffic lights? Elevators? ABS brakes? Sprinkler systems? Circuit breakers? HFT?

How about a pacemaker?

We have lots and lots of autonomous systems in the wild with very well-understood definitions for who is at fault when something bad happens.

We are totally in the "railroads" phase of AI industrialization. Waiting for the next Teddy Roosevelt to come along and trust bust before it's too late.


The title should strike the word "agents" from the title. If OpenAI hacked someone, who cares if it was an agent or a human actor. They're accountable for what their software does.

At the very least this amounts to culpable negligence. (In the sense that their lack of precautions here has clearly exposed other organizations to risk of harm. I can't speak for the legal sense.)

So if I set up a company and accidentally hack random organizations that's OK? But if I do it as an individual user that's not? If they directed anyone or anything to "hack" and that was the outcome that they could not control within the confines of their sandbox then they are responsible for all damages and computer crimes.

I mean, why is OpenAI allowed to continue running public infrastructure? Maybe someone should sue their upstream providers for aiding and abetting felons with massive Internet interconnects.


There’s several billion difference I can think of between you as an individual, and an organisation courting the Australian government with proposed billions of dollars of investment building data centres.

Only two weeks ago an individual was in court, in Australia, for scraping an Australian states court website, using OpenAI. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-10/christopher-duff-to-s...


Ahhh, yes - now we live in the fantasy world that it's OK if you have money to spend. Everyone else is just collateral damage.

We're in agreement that they were in the wrong and should face consequences for their actions.

Note that I said "at the very least", not "at most".


> They're accountable for what their software does.

Sure, but doesn’t it depend on the circumstances?


Sure it does. And if the circumstances indicate that OpenAI committed a crime, they should be held accountable. End of story.

Yay team incarcerate Altman :)

Neither OpenAI nor agents can break into anything. Humans behind can.

It's like saying "a gun has shot a victim" deliberately putting a real criminal outside of public attention.


In a large portion of the civilised world, there’s strict gun controls, creating a high level of safe guards preventing miss-use.

Also seems as this is an billion dollar organisation, the prime minister had “frank” words while an individual faces jail time for using open AI for web scraping https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-10/christopher-duff-to-s...


> getting rid of oldies seems like a reasonable way to move a species forward

This is the real feature of aging, death, and dying. Progress is measured in funerals, not years. If everyone lived forever, nothing would ever change.


>nothing would ever change

Including our fundamental biology.

If we want a chance at improved, more resilient biology, aging and death have to be a part of that.


Aging and death should be a more discussed and comfortable topic for people. Death and dying is natural, just as is being born.

I mean, "should"?... I don't know. Death is natural, but so is fear of death and not wanting to bring up topics that disturb you.

Fear of death is natural, completely agree. My point is that demystifying death and talking about it openly can help make it a less disturbing topic.

For instance, both of us in this conversation will die someday. It is a guaranteed fact.

The question then becomes: how do we live our lives well in view of that fact?


> If we were managed by the interwar generation, little of what's happening today would be happening today.

Doubtful. They were the ones who created the world we live in today.


"Just don't look at the ads! What's the big deal?"

During conflict, which side is winning or losing is usually counted in number of body bags sent home. These tend to influence voters tremendously. Anything to tell a good story on that front.

In a conflict, the side that is winning is the side that still has the will to fight.

Having enough soldiers alive with said will is usually a pretty important factor too.

58,000 US and 230,000 south vietnamese soldiers died during the Vietnam war.

Over 500,000 PAVN/VC soldiers died.

Who lost the will to fight, and the war?

Wars tend to end long before one side runs out of men between the ages of 13 and 73.


I really wonder how much of Amanda Askell is in Claude. I feel that the genius-brain-level-philosopher language Claude uses is a major sign of it. I also worry that if Amanda is not well, this has an outsize second order effect on the rest of us that has not been named or recognized yet. I would extend this analysis to all other AI labs and their primary researchers.

SWE-1.5 was surprisingly good when I used it last. I feel like Cognition is one of the solid players that’s flying a bit under the radar while Anthropic and OpenAI race to IPO.


Odd to get downvotes simply for sharing my experience. Like it or not, Cognition has a good frontier model and they are building serious products. They are working hard which is how you become successful. Sorry if that ruffles your feathers.

Like others in the thread have pointed out, the nurse example is interesting.

From my point of view, the point about the nurse is especially relevant because, in the future, dealing with an aging population is going to become a major undertaking and a major burden.

Demographically, we simply don't have the number of people we need to give elders the care that they'll probably have to have near the end of their life, so we have to rely on AI to help us get through it.

Probably, we will see this happen in Japan and South Korea before it hits the United States.


> Demographically, we simply don't have the number of people we need to give elders the care that they'll probably have to have near the end of their life, so we have to rely on AI to help us get through it.

That is an interesting theory. That could explain why all developed countries seems deliberately raising their young generations to be as unprepared for real life as possible. They simply fear that if the younger generation becomes capable of anything, the younger generations will simply discard democracy, which the more numerous and more weak older generation planning to use to redistribute wealth in their own favor, and the older generations will be left to drag a miserable existence.

South Korea will be interesting to watch indeed.

Hell, maybe even the lowest fertility rate of South Korea in the world and it's de-facto status of western colony is not a coincidence, but designed situation to watch in advance what challenges low birth rate will bring and how better to overcome those challenges


Surprised there is no mention of the Sketch feature so far. That's very powerful! I do art on the side and I know no better of getting the result I want than passing in a first draft sketch.

I super encourage others to learn just a little bit of art technique and your images are going to go to the next level. You need a little construction, perspective, gesture, anatomy, and you're pretty much off to the races.

Knowing names of illustration styles is great too. Look up "style transfer" if you are not familiar.


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