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first Ethan Klein, now Jensen Huang...

The Ethan one is especially shocking because his whole shtick is being the "better man" compared to all the people he reacts to and sues. Throwing it all away just to doink a coworker is pretty out there

People who brag about their ethics are compensating.

This is what you get when you have Meta and its higher ups cheering Trump, and calling Trump election the 'Facebook election'.

How do you move $5B dollars just like that wow

Blockchain!

At a steep discount.

I think different domain benchmarks already exist and are widely used.

True, but afaik none that an AI company itself uses to say 'this is what we think showcases the individual strengths of our models the best'.

Why do baby chicks also showcase this effect? Do they also have a great audiovisual mapping of the world?


I'm just a parrot owner and have no sources for this, but I'd be surprised if they didn't. Birds are very sound-oriented, have to make split second decisions while in the air to avoid collisions and to react to flock calls while they're moving, etc.

At least in parrots, they love playing with sounds. They'll bang things, tap on things, throw things around, and even scream into different objects just to hear the difference. They also have decent object permanence, speaking anecdotally.


How much did it cost you? Or was a subscription-based usage enough?


Subscription. Translated to Around $90 in tokens.


The ants ARE going after the one shaking the box


This time, until they dont anymore. The next stage is people attacking the mathematicians and accusing them. The OpenAI fans come out to attack, then the masses will pick sides and it all just becomes a mess


Remember, it scratches at a level 1, with deeper grooves at a level 2.


And antenna lines near the hinge


Why would Anthropic employee even use OpenAI's models? Cross-polination would have been avoided


> I should also emphasize that this is not an institutional effort. It is a strictly personal collaboration between the two of us, and there is no formal agreement behind it. I pay for the tools my group uses out of my own research funds, including footing a large bill to OpenAI.

The non-Anthropic employee, Tristan Buckmaster, is the one paying for OpenAI models and presumably the one who chose to use them. The Anthropic employee, Levent Alpöge, was collaborating in his personal capacity, and obviously it wouldn't make sense for him to cut off their work together just because his employer's competitor's tool was used.


This was completed in Levent's own time with a neutral collaborator.


They should have used a zero data retention agreement, user error


I suspect this controversy will blow the case for ZDR wide open. Whatever the facts (possibly unknowable), it's going to become a very public lesson that data sovereignty was never about "having nothing to hide".

If this is what they do to academic pure mathematicians, where the stakes are so low (financially)—just imagine the sort of front-running that could be happening in other places.


Yeah if I was Anthropic this would be part of my marketing strategy.


How so? OpenAI and anthropic have basically the same retention policies


Hahaha, how exactly is an individual user supposed to get a ZDR agreement?


I doubt it would've made any difference, zero data retention is truly trivial to get around and I think it's highly likely OAI is already doing this. Just use another model to distill, summarize, and/or paraphrase the data and boom - you get to train on the ideas, while claiming zero data retention, which is true. You legitimately retained zero data.


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