I had a heck of a time ever getting that to work. Also, can that support multiple concurrent users?

Without self-hosting, how can I be sure that the middleman server layer won't affect my security?

It may only apply to Direct IP Access, but isn't that what many would expect (not trusting middleman to be secure?)

The specific purpose of RustDesk is to have the middleman making remote access across networks easier. It's intended to replace TeamViewer, LogMeIn, etc. not VNC or RDP.

You either pick a middleman you want to trust or you run one of your own, if you don't want that or need the features if offers RustDesk is not for you.

Have you tried reading the docs?

>RustDesk is a single open-source application (AGPL) with its own architecture. Clients connect outward to an ID/rendezvous server, which brokers a peer-to-peer or relayed session. Per the RustDesk documentation, traffic is end-to-end encrypted (built on NaCl)

Not yet...good to chastise me on this, but in my defense, I am at work, and am just trying to get a sense of this, as I would like to move away from VNC.

I think you bring up a fine point. Most applications have encryption built in and transparent to the user. While technical IT people in charge of infrastructure will not make this assumption, it is not unreasonable, at the same time, for small business / individual users, to not understand or know of this limitation.

VNC does not, for example, and you need to set up port forwarding through ssh. X2Go does....but I don't trust it terribly. So, RustDesk..what do you need to wrap it in? ssh?

I really want a better solution that VNC/X2Go..especially since I use hardware accelerated apps that need to use VGL to operate correctly (but underwhich operation is quite buggy).

You could wrap in a wireguard tunnel.

RustDesk already encrypts connections going via Relay. Encryption is missing in direct IP to IP connections only - but you could set up an SSH tunnel, or a SOCKS or HTTPS proxy though.

Another valid alternative is Xpra, and it does support Wayland too - but doesn't reach feature parity with X11. Like RustDesk, Xpra is similarly feature-rich and mature, it too can take advantage of SSH tunnels, SOCKS or HTTPS proxies etc.

And then there's TeamViewer and AnyDesk - both of which are paid, with a free tier for evaluating or personal use - RustDesk is younger, but feature-wise they're quite similar.

Finally, you could set up wireguard that will happily encrypt your connection with very little overhead - regardless of your chosen remote desktop solution.

On the other hand, Opus 4.8 had an annoying habit of declaring a huge mistake was found, then two sentences later abruptly change its mind and say that it was in fact all okay. That's fine for chain of thought, but in the verbose output, it can lead to wrong impressions by the user.

This does seem like an area where AI could help respond to changes quickly.

I think that you are being overly cynical. Yes, we are aware of the kinds of things you mean, like all the trainings we have to go through at work these days in order to insulate themselves from lawsuits. But just because something can serve that purpose does not mean that is the only goal or purpose that it is meant to achieve.

Even from a purely profit-motive stance, if a company's model helps a terrorist develop and deliver a bioweapon, no amount of lawer-driven tests will provide enough protection to prevent that company from getting gutted ruthlessly from government on down

You didn't actually say what you found wrong

Go ahead and follow your own advice. You made a claim. Now back it up.

It makes me wonder why this dynamic exists here, and I do wonder at times how much our conversations here are influenced by China in a top-down fashion. I'd prefer to think that HN is pretty organic, but that is probably a naive thought.