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With a much simpler set of tasks to accomplish.

It is enough that it is good and that it has a community that uses it.

Not everything needs to be dominant to be successful. That's a pure USian way of thinking.

In fact, we are much better of with it existing. Think of it as a safeguard in case Linux gets overwhelmed or we need to migrate in a rush.


The point is that no one has spent 1.2M dollars worth of tokens finding bugs in it. If they did, I am sure they would find many bugs.

Given current AI trends, it would not surprise me one bit if they actually try exactly this scenario in the following weeks.

Then we can compare with actual data.


I want to read your blog describing these experiences.

You can try www.APIKulture.com

It is basically that, also similar to Bruno but using 20 times less RAM.


> Most FOSS alternatives won't get anywhere near that.

I don't see any reason why a project with a head start can't reach such parity.


I tested PhotoCraft yesterday.

On the same hardware (128GB RAM), there's just no comparison. Much faster, and better in every way, I don't see myself using Photopea again.


I love old school research using books, however the advantages of connected information cannot be understated.

We could do much better with access to online libraries (which don't exist, apart from the very limited sample from these books accessible using Wikipedia).

Current (blogs and articles and forums) online resources provide information at a rate book search just can't provide.


> online libraries (which don't exist, apart from the very limited sample from these books accessible using Wikipedia).

There are many, but all short of the potential for knowledge and learning:

Internet Archive Lending Library, Hathi Trust, Libby / Overdrive, U. of Pennsylvania's Online Books Page:

https://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/

There are also the shadow libraries, of course.


Yes. If you're optimizing for fast answers over learning, it's a good tool.

Neither.

I optimize for finding the answer to a given question, without knowing beforehand if it will be found online or in an research article or in a book.

And I mean finding the right answer, before you mention "learning" like it is something that can't be done using computers.


Learning can certainly be done using computers. But also not as effectively as stepping away from the answer machine to puzzle it out yourself.

You are not the only person familiar with Feynman's strategy to approach a new topic.

This isn't coming from Feynman. There's decades of research into how education works.

Whatever. It's about the method, not about who used it first.

Except finding the answer to a question has never been what schooling is about. Otherwise we would hand kids a calculator at age 5 and completely skip teaching arithmetic.

By the answers I'm getting here, it seems education is all about how to strawman any argument :D

We put men on the moon with pencil and paper.

Trillions and trillions of dollars of technology later, and the best we can do now is fly by and wave.


Jesus, it has absolutely nothing to do with not having the technological capacity to go back and land on the moon, and everything to do with political and social will. We have rockets doing gymnastics in the sky and landing doing back-flips, you really think we've regressed because "we're not doing pen and paper"?

So, win-win and more traffic for Duck Duck Go?

That's how I read it nowadays, as Google search results are in a quality going down trend.


The win would be if someone started to question why an institute would force Google products on its students in the first place.

I don‘t think that is so simple. Many schools have bought fully into the Google ecosystem, with Google Classroom, Chrombooks, etc. I used to tutor at my local high school, and for some reason traffic to Duck Duck Go was blocked, and I was forced to use Google search when tutoring my students.

sounds like monopolistic practices

DDG is trying to be too much like Google now, with the Ai summaries and chat bot.

Actual search results are still bad. Seems to be a trend across most engines


DDG has an entrypoint with AI features disabled at https://noai.duckduckgo.com/

how long will that last and be given effort?

the direction they want to go is clear for me, similar to proton


http://html.duckduckgo.com/

https://lite.duckduckgo.com/

These are still a thing for people who don't like JavaScript, so I'd give them some credit.

And it's not like these don't cost anything to run and maintain. Quite the contrary: bots love to use them, and it screws with their ads-driven business model. And yet they are still keeping these around.

I think that "noai", too, will keep going for a long time.


they are pushing their Ai across all their web assets, also their own browser, with popups and notifications

very google-y to me, or valley-y is probably more accurate, par for the course across so many products these days (in your face)


I appreciate that they do this, but their results are still trash. Even been having problems with Kagi lately.

No student is going to use that over the default.

The point is that if a school wants to use DDG but not AI, DDG is going to happily oblige them, not pull this stunt like Google.

I turned off all Ai features, then DDG added their search summaries, despite my setting for no ai

DDG pulls stunts too

I'm moving to API based search options, using multiple, and rendering them as markdown for myself or my agent


Years ago Google did the same thing for “safe search”, a url schools could allow.

> DDG is trying to be too much like Google now

I noticed the same with Qwant. They even try to copy the useless UI for Google. And on top of that I get a 2 seconds delay "verifying device".

It seems nobody knows how to create a proper search engine anymore. Google search is also useless compared to "the good old days".


Duckduckgo's AI search feature is utterly worthless. Brave Search does a much better job (that is, if you don't mind 50+ captchas per week).

I won't touch brave or anything the crypto ecosystem

I'm using API search like EXA, the incentives feel more aligned


The use of Electron is poor coding.

Easy to say, and probably true, but this is "armchair quarterbacking". Did you make a better one without Electron that I can use instead, or do I still have to use the Electron one?

Feels like GUI frameworks have gone downhill after Windows Forms. Probably coinciding with everyone wanting a completely custom fancy GUI.


It depends on what are you talking about.

If it is about a Postman/Insomnia/Bruno alternative, the answer is yes.

I use it everyday now, it is called APIKulture. It may not look as pretty, but it is insanely faster than Bruno.

And Postman/Insomnia now require login to their systems which I just refuse to do.


Not sure how APIKulture, a REST API testing GUI, is in any way an alternative for Electron, which is framework for building cross-platform GUI apps. Care to explain your thought process?

It's an alternative to an Electron app.

Ohh you want an Electron alternative, not just some software that's not written in Electron as an example that it is possible not to use Electron. Which was my goal, to show you an example.

In that case the toolkit I used is called wxWidgets. It has been my Electron alternative for two decades.

It is the effort of hundreds of people, so I find your comment of "just build one" as pretentious as it can be. No single person can do this. It's a collective effort.


I dislike Oracle as much as anyone, but Google is the last company I would use as a cloud provider.

Google is worse, hmm, what are some of the reasons why? How could they be worse then endless software audits. I have heard of the endless pain of google killing something you depend on.

Because they can ban your entire corporate account, as a paying customer, for one developer that's flagged in their system joining your org.

And there's no human in the loop you can talk with when that happens. Just one automated response after another.

The only appeal possible is to become viral and force their hand to check your case.

Honestly, I would avoid both.


The painful banning that google does with automated takedowns and no humans to easily talk to is a real impediment. That feels like a perfectly legit complaint. That policy is so self destructive. I think all auto bans without human review should end, but instead we are just making this worse with more and more automated systems.

They are notoriously difficult to contact if your company is banned, or someone within your company is banned. That's it, poof, gone, everything you have.

Both companies are awful to customers. But the Oracle cloud product is truly terrible.

I had significant free credits for their cloud product. It was not even useful at a 0 pricepoint. I had to escalate repeatedly until I was doing screenshares with very high level engineers, to show them that their VM's, the more core offering, literally would not start.

They did have those Ampere arm chips which we mildly interesting for a hot minute a few years ago but seem to have disappeared somewhere.

I think we are in agreement here.

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