This person is just posting absolutely baseless claims, as if Atlassian, a company that basically exists purely on the back of B2B SaaS sales, has not considered EU data residency requirements in their core product offering: https://www.atlassian.com/software/data-residency

FWIW nearly every SaaS or IaaS is making bold claims about supporting data sovereignty, but unless it has been challenged in court I wouldn’t put much stock into it.

The fact that Jira/Confluence are being processed by their LLMs puts them in direct legal conflict with several statutes in the EU, its a matter of time for them to get hit by this and I’m betting that they think the fine will be lower than the revenue they acquire for doing it- and they’re hoping they don’t get hit at all.

This seems to be the common case for a lot of the non-EU tech companies, and it seems to be working.

Oracle is currently the market leader in “sovereign” compute for EU governments for example, as ironic as that is.

> This person is just posting absolutely baseless claims

You don't need to be so hostile. I know about the EU requirements but many EU companies have sensitive data on hosted JIRA / Confluence that simply cannot be in the possession of a non-European company. I know because I'm working for one. I cannot even remote-work from outside Europe. Some stuff cannot even leave the VPN. There's also the CLOUD act.

Yeah I thought Jira at least was all built on AWS these days. I've never set up a Jira Cloud instance but I'd be surprised if you don't chose where your data lives.

And yet they can't mention or admit that LLMs were involved or the gamers would rise up.

For a moment there this wasn't about LLMs

LLM use is normalized in just about every other area except in very fringe nerd groups who oppose it like it was an interdimensional threat.

No reason to mention using it any more than disclosing the text editor they used.

Are you telling me every pizza and event place using the same AI pictures and flyers suddenly is already normalized?

Yes if they used notepad over a frontier IDE their refactors may have missed a reference. I demand to know which version of notepad they are using.

You're right - after all, just like LLM usage, the text editor you use will have an impact deep in the project and affect the quality of the end product, right?

Judge the project by quality not by the ideological convictions of yourself

They appear to have a pretty well-defined modding interface that didn't rely no unity's custom data structures. I'd suspect this project was started some time back, not just a one-shot port. Can't say whether or not any LLM's were used on tested in this project, but I get the feeling they set themselves up for making it portable from the start via some good old fashion thinking.

LLM's are still kinda shit at porting large in-house game projects. They can quickly and easily mangle codebases.

That's an odd thing to say given that there hasn't been any word on if they even used LLMs. Presumably this update has been in the works for some time.

Why would they? They likely don't talk about what IDEs they use either.

Were they?

I believe it to be very likely. AI is a development tool that allows you to implement things that simply weren't possible before due to time constraints.

You don't need a plane to get from America to Europe, but there are constraints if you don't use one.

I think most people are angry about the artistic portion like images and dialogue of games being AI generated more than the code. Code can be art as well in my opinion, but it still can be even if you AI just ported a large part of your code base to another target engine for example.

i'm pretty convinced that if you look at the cadence and tempo of updates on Steam among actively developed games that one could probably make pretty good guesses about which groups are using LLMs internally.

Doesn't prove anything, lots of stuff changes development house tempo, but to anyone watching things as a whole updates across steam games in active development are 1) quickening 2) narrowing 3) becoming predictably scheduled ; all of these point to more than just a single group refocusing on the work at hand.

I think builds are getting pushed out a lot quicker, and personally I know of a lot of anecdotes where groups' entire build and output chain are handled by LLMs invoked by cron (or a clone). That alone will add a lot of regularness to things.

This is true in general, but how does that apply to this game? Their release schedule has followed a pattern for years, this release included - a major version every 1-2 years, followed by a flurry of hotfixes that then slow down until the next major release. Wouldn't you see that schedule tighten post-LLMs if they became as AI-pilled as this comment thread wants them to be?

Tynan has been pretty positive about LLMs on his twitter. I obviously don't have any inside information, but I think it would be very surprising to me if there was zero usage of a frontier model in doing something like this.

So, your proof is the absence of proof.

Not sure why you are downvoted. Gaming communities absolutely erupt when using AI for building games is mentioned.

Thought that’s more about the art, voice and music. The more artistic side of things.

There is a big range of understanding what "AI" even is, even among the most fervent haters. Some people will claim "Any visible AI is bad AI", others will claim "Gen AI is the job stealing one, others are OK" and some will direct their hate towards LLMs, but only running on other's servers.

I don't think you can say clearly there is a one "community" collectively "hating" the same thing here, it's just a lot of people with a lot of different strengths and directions of dislike basically.

I just heard the giantbomb guys describe how to block Claude code on Github so you don't have to play any filthy AI helped decompilations. It's a new kind of social benchmark among some people to be the most against AI.

I don’t like calling ppl stupid but it was a benchmark of “stupidity” if I ever seen one.

Why? Because people with well developed frontal cortex predicted the increase in capabilities easily while people with underdeveloped frontal cortex couldn’t extrapolate today’s improving slop to tomorrow competence.

Hence I have learned a lot about my fellow humans of many political tribes and how the distribution of those more “naturally talented at predicting patterns” look.

I stopped paying heed to certain kind of emotional, outcry driven people that thrive on your attention and take morality as a hostage.

For they aren’t what they want to appear to be usually.

If we all stopped giving them our time they would dry up and wither without audience and the world would be a more pleasant place.

I think that's a bit mean to the people (in my experience most people) who didn't and still don't see it. What's happening right now is really akin to magic. We're throwing incantations at sand and it's doing work for us. The rate of change is such that nobody can keep up with it all, even the people like me who use it daily.

What people DO see is having to use or be monitored by ABYSMAL types of AI at work or when they try to call x company for support or whatever. The outcry against data centers when the same people building them were moaning about how electric vehicles would crash our electric grid completely is quite justified. As is the outcry about creative and intellectual theft. Add deepfakes, scams, spam, misinformation, etc. and the negative externalities of AI for most people seem to far outweigh the "benefits". And everything beneficial seems to just be training the AI to do your job in disguise. Add in that the billionaires behind most of this tech come off as completely out of touch with the real world and I totally see the perspective of "screw AI and everything it stands for" even if I don't share it myself.

I think you are too lenient. Everyone has the same access to the information nowadays. Everyone can ask, even an LLM, about how it works, what does this and this mean.

There are no excuses in this day and age. I am also sometimes lazy but I never pat myself on the back for it.

Why would I hold other people to lower standards than myself? I think that, would be offensive.

I refuse to treat other people as less than myself. If I can investigate this topic without experience or phd then I assume anyone can obtain such knowledge before unleashing scathing critique.

Do not defend people who hate on things without due diligence and who generally are quick to hate.

My guess is there's a whole plethora of important information you're ignorant about that you could just look up and have full knowledge of if you cared. But nobody has time to care about everything. People only have so much time in a day. After 8 hours of working and 2 hours commuting because nobody can afford to live in a city anymore people just want to eat dinner, relax for a bit, and go to bed. Maybe spend time with their kids instead of sitting around reading about how AI is going to make them obsolete.

Example I would give is I'm totally ignorant of local politics. I just don't have any time at all to parse it, and I probably wouldn't bother even if I were magically given the time. There's people out there that would be just as upset at me as you are at people ignorant about AI. And it's not that I'm lesser than the person focused on local politics, I just spend my time elsewhere.

I think expecting understanding of the nuance of code vs art out of the gaming community might be asking a little too much.

Not really? It happens in code too, just most the time its sight unseen unless a team explicitly mentions it.

I mean we've even been seeing gamer outrage over LLMs being used in decompilation projects. How "decomps have lost their soul" now that it doesnt take a small team several years.

"the audacity of these people, they didn't even mention that they cheated and used emacs ! they sacrificed their pinkies for development time!"

I think you wildly underestimate how much more empowered the people monitoring social media escalations are versus the standard front-line support. In a clear-cut case like this I can absolutely imagine someone getting pinged and pressing the 'kill bad thing' button immediately after the post hitting the front page, because I've seen this happen many times.

> Incredibly disappointing just how many comments are making fun of the site for not handling the traffic

Why? It's a deserved, obvious observation. If you're advocating a position but then demonstrate exactly the thing that counters your position, isn't that a worthwhile point? Of course everyone is going to point it out.

An HN front page simply isn't much traffic at all. It really isn't. The fact that so many sites still fall over is simply crazy in 2026. I don't even know how it's possible this is still such an issue. A Raspberry Pi 5 can host an HNing.

The site finally loaded for me, and seriously publishing content is such a ridiculous pattern. It's actually kind of funny that the whole site is falling over because someone decided to publish an opinion in a README, instead of putting it on an infinitely more appropriate static host (which can be built from that git).

yeah i guess if you can't read and pretend they're trying to make a completely different point, then this all makes sense. i kind of expect most people on HN to be literate tho

Ah yes, I'm totally illiterate. You got me. I mean, if you didn't get everyone with the hilarious pearl clutching as you holier than thou'd everyone, the comical insults should really put it over the top.

Thanks for reminding me to flag the submission, though.

In what way does their lack of traffic resilience demonstrate a counter to their position? Their position is not that load balancers and edge nodes are bad.

If I say I hate oversized trucks because one ran me over, my position is not countered by needing someone to deliver my couch.

> In what way does their lack of traffic resilience demonstrate a counter to their position?

When 99.999% of sites utilize Cloudflare for "traffic resilience", as a caching facade that even happens to be geolocated to clients for even more benefit, falling over on exactly that issue kind of obliterates the sales pitch. Every single reasonable person on the planet sees that.

It looks farcically silly, regardless of whatever points it makes or however much I agree with them (yes, CF centralization is bad, it's a company with a mixed history and a lot of bad, it basically has a monopoly now, etc). And yes, there are other CDNs and load balancers and solutions. But presumably someone pushing a position on this has the problem solved beforehand, no?

As to your poor analogy, it's more akin to saying that you hate trucks while trying to drag a couch seven miles from the store.

incredibly weird first comment to post on HN, especially when nothing about this has anything to do with any configuration. the entire thing is about cloudflare's outsized role in controlling connectivity on the internet, which is very real.

they literally said that they think Mamdani is doing the right thing and that they understand they're hindering their education by using AI the way they are, did you even read the comment before making your response?

Missing information is different from paying the person who steals information instead of paying the person that produces it. Did you bother to think critically before you replied, or is an AI doing all your thinking as well?

It's ridiculous for eighteen year olds to have to consider their future earning potential, when the constant drumbeat is "you must go to college to be a successful human".

I was the only person in my immediate family to go to college, and it was clear from my school and my family that "college = success". I majored in psychology, which has absolutely no job prospects. At no point did I have meaningful support from anyone around me in terms of picking an "effective" degree, or evaluating job opportunities.

It worked out fine for me, because I spent most of my time not paying attention to class and screwing around on the internet instead, so the ~50k in private student loans at an extortionate rate that I had to take out to attend have never been a problem, but it was all by complete luck.

It's an absurd system. How about we stop encouraging kids to go to college unless they have a plan on how to manage the incurred debt?

the blog post is absolute slop though