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GEOS and the like was a bit before my time, I mostly know about geoworks because back in the 2003 while in high school, I played a lot of "Wyvern" (https://web.archive.org/web/20030212212420/http://www.caboch...), an online 2d rpg game primarily made by Steve Yegge. There seemed to be significant contributions from other GeoWorks related people early on and I had noticed the name come up from time to time.

Here's some GEOS/GeoWorks related internet archaeology you may find interesting

The GEOS Software Library: https://web.archive.org/web/20021203000244/http://www.tvakat... ("Två Katter" = swedish for two cats, a play on tucows.com)

Video of the launch party for GeoWorks Ensemble 2.0 with CEO Brian Dougherty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOImkzTyJ7s "Geoworks - Brian's Got A Brand New Bag"

Steve briefly mentioning that he worked for GeoWorks, and why he thinks/thought it ultimately couldn't keep up with changes. https://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/05/dynamic-languages-s...

>I went to the University of Washington and [then] I got hired by this company called Geoworks, doing assembly-language programming, and I did it for five years. To us, the Geoworkers, we wrote a whole operating system, the libraries, drivers, apps, you know: a desktop operating system in assembly. 8086 assembly! It wasn't even good assembly! We had four registers! [Plus the] si [register] if you counted, you know, if you counted 386, right? It was horrible.

>I mean, actually we kind of liked it. It was Object-Oriented Assembly. It's amazing what you can talk yourself into liking, which is the real irony of all this. And to us, C++ was the ultimate in Roman decadence. I mean, it was equivalent to going and vomiting so you could eat more. They had IF! We had jump CX zero! Right? They had "Objects". Well we did too, but I mean they had syntax for it, right? I mean it was all just such weeniness. And we knew that we could outperform any compiler out there because at the time, we could!

>So what happened? Well, they went bankrupt. Why? Now I'm probably disagreeing – I know for a fact that I'm disagreeing with every Geoworker out there. I'm the only one that holds this belief. But it's because we wrote fifteen million lines of 8086 assembly language. We had really good tools, world class tools: trust me, you need 'em. But at some point, man...

>The problem is, picture an ant walking across your garage floor, trying to make a straight line of it. It ain't gonna make a straight line. And you know this because you have perspective. You can see the ant walking around, going hee hee hee, look at him locally optimize for that rock, and now he's going off this way, right?

>This is what we were, when we were writing this giant assembly-language system. Because what happened was, Microsoft eventually released a platform for mobile devices that was much faster than ours. OK? And I started going in with my debugger, going, what? What is up with this? This rendering is just really slow, it's like sluggish, you know. And I went in and found out that some title bar was getting rendered 140 times every time you refreshed the screen. It wasn't just the title bar. Everything was getting called multiple times.

>Because we couldn't see how the system worked anymore!


France is spiraling into a debt whirlpool needing to use debt to pay off debt, basically having no good way to resolve the issue without a lot of pain (“austerity”). Any politician with enough foresight to do what needs to be done gets removed, so those that remain are selected for their thick foreheads.

What’s more fun is that while france is teetering on the brink, it’s hardly alone, and it’s collapse will tip the dominoes.

Something to look forward to, I guess.


So Europe is about to collapse?


No silly, more 'austerity' where national debt explodes but pretend we're making hard decisions and trying hard to do something about it.

See ~2008 onwards:

https://countryeconomy.com/national-debt/france

https://countryeconomy.com/national-debt/uk

It can be our children's problem !


It's quite possible the fiscal situation of France will lead to the destruction of the eurozone if they leave.


I have too many hobbies and not nearly enough time or space, but I’ve always been interested in raising glowworms at some point.

This channel has some fairly unique practical information on raising them (and some other things as well) for those interested: https://www.youtube.com/@PeppersnGlowworms/playlists


Oh bummer, I never even saw it listed.


The Knights of New are recruiting


Here’s the encanto process page: https://disneyanimation.com/process-encanto/


Thank you!


It’s difficult to say, because there are plenty of fairly horrible examples where an entire nation gets trapped in a culture that actively masters over generations how to punish honesty and reward corruption. Russia being an example.


I doubt very much you have any backing for this statement...

In the micro level, Russians look to be lovely trusting people to each other. My source is an Instagram story of a guy pretending not to speak Russian, talking to drunk Russians on the street in English, and they're not agressive but they try to solve his problem. Yeah, great source, but I doubt it's much worse than yours.


Please reconsider what you think is respectful, because that was just straight up multiple personal insults.


Uh. What? Multiple?

I mean I can see the "I think your judgement is bad" could be seen as a personal insult (even though it is genuinely meant as an assessment of reality), but "multiple"?


Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that you didn't intend "memeOS" to be an insult?


No, why?

The sentence structure implied that I would have personally insulted this HN user and did so multiple times.

That is not true though.

What you did probably sense instead is more of a general abrasiveness-field. That was intentional (and obvious, for that matter).


So do you believe that it's acceptable for your comments here to be laced with insults throughout, as long as they aren't intentionally and specifically targeted at the author of the comment you're replying to? Because I definitely don't think it's appropriate behavior to be denigrating an entire Linux distro and anyone whose values align with the purpose of that distro as merely participating in a meme.


Yes, I do believe that nixOS (especially nixOS 5 years ago) was not to be taken seriously.

It was (and is) a never-ending drama faucet, because most people are in it for the identity and not for the utility. Or rather the utility primarily is the identity granted by using it.


I can’t speak for him, but I regularly reword replies after a minute of consideration or if I manage to think to myself “is this as kind as I intend to be to others” during it’s formation.


He posted a couple of replies and closed the issue, then this thread was posted and he went back and posted an apology and the fix.


Where's the fix?


Personally, I don’t really find “all my kids got murdered, it’s fine I’ll just make more” to be the sort of thing that fills me with peace and inspiration.

While I find nature “beautiful” certainly, I also find myself rather dissatisfied with it being a horrific trap of nonstop callous selfish violence, at a scale beyond human capacity to ever understand or accept.


That’s a fair consideration to bring up.


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