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Yeah until they discover a vuln in wireguard.

Then you still have your ssh safeguards

Yeah your vault has password authentication. Your password manager in other words. Your vault is where you store your private ssh keys, and or the passwords for the keys.

No joke, yes they did. The markets hit here in Sweden are all in rural communities with very low number of tech workers. They likely order their system from a supplier, that should have alerted them and helped them, but apparently did nothing.

But then the supplier is responsible, why would you ever put a fridge online if you are are tech noob. Someone told these people to put these fridges online, they didn't put an Ethernet cable in the back by themselves for the fun of it.

The company installing the fridges did. The person who is an expert in food chain logistics bought the shiny fridges and was enamoured by the real business benefits they had of centralised monitoring and alarming of their fridges.

> why would you ever put a fridge online if you are are tech noob

I have some unfortunate news for you.

There's a lot of scary shit online.


>The markets hit here in Sweden are all in rural communities with very low number of tech workers.

Hej! You are wrong, here in the middle of Stockholm got hit.

https://www.mitti.se/nyheter/icabutikens-frysar-hackades--fi...

ICA Baronen on Odengatan is one of several stores in Sweden that have suffered a major hacker attack. On Monday, their freezers were cancelled at 50 degrees.

This is in Stockholm - https://maps.app.goo.gl/BwbDST4dPVkjcdgA8

So no lack of IT workers/tech workers... Nor is it very rural.

>They likely order their system from a supplier, that should have alerted them and helped them, but apparently did nothing.

The first thing to do when you get access to these as a hacker? You disable the alarms...!

Now, the supplier should have set them up correctly over VPN, good passwords, Zero Trust etc but these an OT/SCADA are usually just open to the internet due to the simplicity of use.


Hence why you need an alarm for alarm disablement

(I mean, you need also a bunch of other things but yes)


Some of them (Coop) got new equipment after what happened in France and where gonna upgrade them in two days.

Who uses Canonical LXD?

I never even heard of it.


LXD is something you can easily configure from cloud-init:

https://docs.cloud-init.io/en/latest/reference/modules.html#...

And then set up the subcontainers with their own cloud-init:

https://docs.cloud-init.io/en/latest/tutorial/lxd.html

So I am guessing this might appeal more broadly.


MicroCloud for example, it's been actively pitched for smaller sites by Canonical

Incus is the successor... Used it for years ... Supports docker images, container images (more like a container running a VM image) and vms

MicroCloud and some other product for sure

Are they all publicly traded? I have this theory that publicly traded companies hire people to inflate their stock value.

Because it's a legit question, like if a companye can lay off thousands of people and still run their service, what were they all doing?


Have you worked at a public company, or better yet one that went public while you worked there?

The amount of people working on regulation, compliance and other non-revenue generating responsibilities increases substantially.


Yeah sure, but thousands?

I work with regulations because I'm in charge of IT at a small but busy healthcare provider. We're like 3 people who handle ISO certification and NIST compliance, on the side.


I'm from another area of europe with lots of tourism, Croatia, and one trick that works here is to take the town everyone talks about, and go one town over, or two towns over.

Does that work with Hallstatt too? I've never been there.


the whole area is cool but hallstatt is unique. i spent a few days near there last summer and rented a bicycle and rode around to other villages and small towns and lakes and it's all very nice

they go just for day trips there that's the problem

Austrian here, nope. I mean there are similar lakeside beauties in Austria, but nothing has quite this combination of interesting topology, ancient history and atmosphere. If that combination doesn't make you excited, then it is probably okay to go to some other place instead.

That being said of the 3 times I was there during the past decade, it was only bad one time, but that was high season/winter and we booked the date because of a family event that we didn't want to move. That was bareable still since most Hallstatt tourists tend to be day-trippers that are bussed in and out and if you stay over night you get some chance to walk around late or early without a million people in an narrow alley.

Like with every touristy area it pays off to investigate which ones are the less popular weeks of the year to visit (hard to do that sometimes in Croatian, especially if you're there for a swim).


I'm sure if they had a bunch of LLM puffery back in 2014 they would have used it.

Most giant Minecraft map projects are automated as much as possible. It would be a real labor of love on the spectrum otherwise, and who can maintain that?


The puffery is the webpage copy, not the automation to produce the map.

If thats the case, the parent's critique was oddly stated and confusing. The phrase "to do it" implies the "LLM puffery" was required to accomplish the task, which clearly providing LLM generated praise isn't required in either setting to create a world in minecraft.

Denmark presented the world with their entire country as a Minecraft map, and they did it without inflicting an awful marketing website on us. This Swiss project couldn't resist the urge to produce such an eyesore of a website while providing the world with another 1:1 Minecraft map of a country.

I don't think there's anything wrong with this website, just some people hate slop.

Compare:

"All of Denmark in Minecraft. Recreated in a map with a scale of 1:1. Explore cities, landscapes and landmarks built of 4 trillion blocks."

"Switzerland. Block by block. At 1:1 scale. Every block is one metre. Terrain, glaciers, lakes, forests and dams come from swisstopo’s open geodata. The Matterhorn is exactly as tall and as steep as the real one."

The latter website's wording is unnecessarily staccato, self-congratulatory, and draws your attention to odd points, while missing out vital information like the word "Minecraft" (which appears elsewhere in 5 point font). It reads like a failed marketer camping out on LinkedIn wrote it.... and that's probably what the LLM was trained on. And the person using the LLM either didn't care what the website said, or reviewed it and thought it looked good and needed no changes. Either way, awful.


Yeah, like a lot of AI stuff it gets worse the more you look at it.. eg. "Block by block" the 2nd sentence fragment in this very important intro paragragh.. and, it doesnt mean anything. In fact its misleading, if it meant anything I would take it to mean that this was made by a human without tools placing one block at a time, which is clearly not true.

Then the next two + the last one "At 1:1 scale.", "Every block is one metre", "The Matterhorn is exactly as tall and as steep as the real one" are all redundant, all conveying the same info in 3 different ways.


everyone spotted in the wild!

Actually is wasn't useless, I don't know the scale Denmark or where the data came from. So the bottom example is slightly bigger but includes more relevant details.

Without the "detail" of "Minecraft" you don't even know what "the data" is.

> I don't know the scale Denmark

What does that refer to? Both say "1:1 scale". Are you just trying to pad the list so you can "details" instead of "detail"?

"Terrain, glaciers, lakes, forests and dams come from swisstopo’s open geodata"

Without the context of what this even is, that the description does not provide, that might as well be someone who is bad at English trying to say something like"swisstopo’s offers open geodata about terrains, glaciers, lakes, forests and dams of Switzerland". Except if they struggled with the language they wouldn't needlessly bloat that list, either.

They didn't read it, the people rushing to its defense apparently aren't parsing it either, but I'm sure they make sure payment processing works, so at least there's that.


I am mind blown at how long it took me to read that this was Minecraft. I agree, the wording makes you mentally skip Minecraft somehow.

I don't feel there's that much of a difference. It certainly isn't "awful" to me.

I'm not a fan of AI generated prose myself, but this was at least informative to me.

There's literally nothing wrong with the website, what are you on about.

Some people get a rise out of dissing LLM stuff.

Was thinking, the automation to produce the map was probably not an LLM

That feels so weird. Isn't the whole premisce of these things "this is a game where each block must be placed with purpose", and so using anything automated literally takes out most of that sentence and it just becomes "this is a game". I don't get the appeal or the expectation of triumph.

Don't overcomplicate it. There is no one true way, for Minecraft or for anything.

    I don't get it
Because it looks cool to see the real world in blocks. And if it looks cool, it is cool, as they say.

People have been doing this for a LONG TIME

Here's a video of Yosemite Valley from 2014:

> I did not build this by hand. That would take decades! Instead, I wrote an MCEdit filter that took images and elevation data from Google Maps and turned them into blocks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jWAwWD47OE


You're actually allowed to play video games the way you want to.

"this is a game where each block must be placed with purpose"

You lack the hacker mindset if you think you "must" do anything the way it was designed.


thank you for the wisdom INTPenis

Think you are missing a couple decades of Minecraft automation. Its been done since the beginning. This is just cool example of taking it to extreme.

The game generates the worlds using automation even when playing normally. Have you even played Minecraft?

Yeah, but normally the world-gen is automated and then the rest isn't. I get the comment. Minecraft isn't fun when you automate everything. People have been hosting WorldEdit-spammed servers since the beginning that were always lame. The real-life to ingame map conversions were novel at first but are old news now. One famous example was the UC Berkeley replica, which was done in creative mode manually in 2020. Tons of people joined that server and explored the entire campus. Then Stanford auto-gen'd their campus ingame from real-life spatial data, and it was boring, and nobody cared.

These country / world maps autogenerated are still cool to look at a bit. Also some people can take these and then rebuild famous landmarks by hand.


This is a really fun idea, but I went from excited to disgusted in the span of one click.

The first thing that pops up for my city of Malmö is the school stabbing that happened in 2022. They're so rare here, and yet Wikipedia felt I just had to see it.

I'm not going to make stupid feature requests, but it would be cool with a filter for types of Wikipedia articles to show.


I made a map of Wikipedia pages and events once [1] and a key decision was: which pages to show first, and which to show only when the user zooms in?

I went with "let's show pages with the most words first". If people spent more time writing a page, it must be a great topic, right? Unfortunately, this also surfaces all the wars, crimes, accidents and controversies that generated the most coverage. These are the most active pages on Wikipedia.

[1] https://landnotes.org/?location=u0q9wgry-5&paneTab=about


Fear clouds their judgement.


I understand under the horrors of their post WWI economy, but we're nowhere near this kind situation right now... people can eat, they have a good social security net. And the people under that protections are the ones voting against it ?! Sorry /rant


I started writing a long rant as a response but I'm not going to because I think it's the wrong forum. Let's just let this post disappear, it's even slightly Off Topic. People seem to think hacker news has to do with security, when it's more about venture capital and startups.


Jews are grandfathered in, muslims are the new enemy.

It's hilarious watching old European neonazis allying themselves with Israel today.

The confusion is palpable.


I think it is even simpler than that. Populist parties need to have a simple message that their supporters can easily understand. Having two quite different enemies at the same time would make things harder.

If there were 0 muslims in Germany today, their politics would be 100% about Jews controlling the world and all that stuff.


I'm convinced that many right wingers pretend to support Israel while being secretly delighted to see the country heading deeper into trouble. It serves as a convenient disguise for their antisemitism.


There is no confusion: Hannah Arendt and Albert Einstein famously denounced the right-wing tendencies of Israel in 1948 in a letter to the New York Times:

"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine."

The leader of that party was Menachem Begin, later prime minister of Israel and founder of Likud, Netanyahu's party.


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