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>And like the DAO hack on Ethereum showed, if most people who run blockchain software decide that something never happened, they can revert transactions that way.

Isn't that a pretty integral part of the blockchain? 51% attacks were even featured on the HBO show Silicon Valley.


Fixing the DAO hack wasn't done via a 51% attack. In most/all blockchains protocol changes aren't done by simple majority vote.

Was it mentioned somewhere that they got compromised? And that it's not for example a hardware failure? I imagine lead times for getting brand new hardware would be in the 2–4 week range these days.

> And that it's not for example a hardware failure?

They say they have a second site, the chance of hardware failure taking out both sites at the exact same time is near zero.


As I understand it, the second site will allow them to resume operating at a limited capacity sooner than 2-4 weeks?

Other than that 2-4 does sound more like hardware lead time rather than time it takes to resolve a security incident.


Imagine if there was an API to rent servers within minutes or someday even seconds.

That speed comes with its own cost though. Might be simply too unreasonable at their scale.

> Imagine if there was an API to rent servers within minutes or someday even seconds.

Imagine if everyone offering said API were capricious, inhumane, and uncaring about customer support, service terminations, and customer wind-down processes.

Now that you’ve pictured AWS, GCP, DigitalOcean, et al. more fully, that rules them out as available options for a long-term fanfic-centric erotica archive site that has specific and unusual legal concerns and threats to its existence incompatible with skittish Redbox-style compute providers.

Was there a particular cloud provider you were thinking of, that is not a ‘good night, sleep well, perhaps we’ll kill you in the morning’ service provider incompatible with AO3?


There are a few "Nazi" hosting providers that could probably handle AO3. Maybe AO3 couldn't handle them.

> There are a few "Nazi" hosting providers that could probably handle AO3.

I mean, you’re welcome to supply ammunition against your own argument here — ‘every hosting provider with a server-provisioning API is either capricious or Nazi-welcoming’ is a pretty damning condemnation of your own point! But .. if that’s not your intent, then I don’t really understand what point you’re trying to make in support of these APIs, and pithy sentence replies aren’t doing you any favors in conveying an interpretable opinion about AO3, server provisioning APIs and checks notes Nazis(?).

Are you suggesting that AO3 is akin to Nazi content? Are you suggesting that non-skittish hosting providers are uniformly also unprincipled? Are you equating erotica and fascism? I’d prefer to hear your explanation in your own words rather than be forced to infer bad faith participation here.


non-skittish hosting providers are uniformly also unprincipled

Yeah, this is what I'm saying (although absolute free speech is itself a principle). I wish it weren't so, but you're 99% right that the cloud isn't really usable for anything outside the Overton window, whether it's far left, far right, erotica, pro-suicide, extreme trolling, etc.

However if you're using Cloudflare you can "hide" your backend hosting provider and they usually won't kick you out because they don't take any reputation hit. So I still suspect a mainstream cloud (with good off-cloud backups) could work for AO3.


> I wish it weren't so

Same :(


> Are you suggesting that AO3 is akin to Nazi content? Are you suggesting that non-skittish hosting providers are uniformly also unprincipled? Are you equating erotica and fascism? I’d prefer to hear your explanation in your own words rather than be forced to infer bad faith participation here.

I think the point they're trying to make is that "normal" hosting providers like AWS, Azure or Google won't accept AO3 as a customer in the first place or yeet them the day the first DMCA email arrives or some Evangelicals yap about furries and they realize what their customer is doing. "Nazi" hosters (aka wherever Gab, Truth Social et al are hosted) or your average cybercrime "bulletproof hoster" are being used to deal with a lot of bullshit, or they just pipe any complaints straight to /dev/null - and they are used to dealing with cyberattacks of all kinds as well because they are a very, very juicy target for anyone from antifascist activists over cybercriminals wanting to cash in on Trump's Truth Social privileges to other nations' secret services that might want to sow chaos by manipulating Trump's Truth Social feed.

So... AO3 is nowhere near Nazi crap in terms of content, but a very, very similar threat model (exhaustion of customer support goodwill).


> I think the point they're trying to make

Their response is here and provides the desired clarification: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50295919


Tuike Finland is not a contractor. It's a Google subsidiary. Tuike Finland also has the auxiliary com­pany na­me of "Google Technology Finland". Their official place of business is Ensontie 1, 49420 Hamina.

https://www.finder.fi/IT-konsultointi+IT-palvelut/Tuike+Finl...

Notably, this is the address of Google Hamina Campus.

https://www.datacentermap.com/finland/hamina/google-hamina/


Thank you, that clears it up that it's indeed still Google. Oh, it's even said in the article.

Google (through its local subsidiary) asked the regulators if they could skip doing an environmental impact assessment. The regulators told them that they could not skip doing it. They'd already started logging before asking for the exemption and continued to log for months after being told that there would not be an exemption.

They'd also applied for a landscaping permit for the site, but were denied one by the municipality because they'd still not performed the environmental impact assessment.


It's google trying to ask for forgiveness rather than permission, the news cycles making money on the cockup, and HN whiteknighting for Google because Google pays their wages directly and indirectly.

A viscous cycle all around!


Closing the loop: google makes ad money on all the views these stories get

That can't be more than a few thousand dollars, compared to the millions they must be spending making this data center.

The HN submission title is wrong and editorialised. Google is not being investigated for cutting trees. They're being investigated for environmental damage, including drainage and water management at the site. There's been reports of water running from the site out into the environment. The local residents have been worried over brown, muddy water streaming out from the clearance site into the surrounding nature (https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000012327899.html).

Incorrect. While there are multiple issues, the cutting of trees is the main issue.

Welcome to the new Hacker News, nowhere is safe from the propaganda clowns.

>This gets brought up every time the discussion happens, yet we manage perfectly well even further north here in Norway.

Yeah, try going to school in Lapland. If school starts at 09:00, you're walking to school in the dark. If school ends at 14:00, you're walking home in the dark.


>the greatest video game imaginable still only appeals to people who like video games.

I don't know. World of Warcraft definitely brought a lot of people that didn't like video games to PC gaming. And then you had something like FarmVille that brought even more people (many of whom probably didn't like video games before) into gaming.


Isn't that exactly the kind of thing that would be offloaded to an AI? If you can just take a picture, record the sound, or vaguely describe a bird and it instantly gives you an answer.

Really glad I'm not currently shopping for a new computer.

It's also pretty fucking sad how this thing comes with less RAM than my low-end Mac Studio from 2022. I only upgraded from a 512 GB SSD to 1 TB, and I still have 32 GB. And even still, I paid 2599€ for it, where as the OLED MacBook Pro is 4049€.


There's been quite a lot of people still defending the site. Basically "who cares about DDoS attacks and altering archived sites' content when it allows bypassing paywalls?"

well, yeah

Setting my user-agent to Googlebot in a private window bypasses most paywalls just fine. Surprised at how many sites aren't checking against the published IP ranges.

The few people willing to change their user-agent aren't worth the extra complexity.

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