OSM has had in-browser editing since 2004.

> It's a great project.. but I think they really messed up the licensing in a misguided effort to make the project viral.

OSM's sharealike provision has never been about making the project "viral". Free map data is enough to do that by itself.

OSM's sharealike provision is, and always has been, unambiguously aimed at stopping bigcos killing the project by scooping up the map data then contributing nothing back - the scenario where Schmoogle Maps takes all OSM's footpath data, combines it with their own motor-centric, sensor-fuelled dataset to create the one map to rule them all, and thereby attracts the flow of new contributors that OSM needs to survive.

The subtext seems to be a hostility towards people making money from what you've shared.. which I find sort of baffling - but is very on-brand for the general anti-capitalist sentiments in the memesphere. People building on your work feels like something to be celebrated, but I guess it's a difference of opinion. I'm just generally skeptical that this would be "killing the project" at all.. it feels like it'd be the other way around? If OSM data were for instance used by Google and Apple Maps.. it feels like it'd just have made it more foundational and would get people even more excited to contribute. It'd be the world's central repository of map data everyone builds off of.. like the Debian of maps. Instead it's a parochial project for map nerds.

Can you imagine if GIMP has a similar policy to watermark all it's output with a "Made my GIMP!" in an effort to "attracts the flow of new contributors" and to make it hard for people to build a product with it?

Couldn't they still do that though, just with an attribution notice in the corner?

I had a brief chat with the dev at State of the Map (the OSM conference) a few weeks ago. I think he'd appreciate some help, maybe even a co-maintainer.

Any more you can share? Is he actively doing a search? I didn't see anything about it in the repo.

My 10-year old loved it. I'd shown him a few Road Runner cartoons on YouTube beforehand.

> The OpenStreetMap community operates under the “on the ground” principle, recording what is actually currently used in a particular area, giving pre­eminence to data collected in­ situ.

https://osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesI...

> No one stopped to question whether a shapefile of points of park benches could even be copyrightable in the first place.

Lots of people did, in fact, consider this.

Ah, the irony of posting "Your Mac is slowing you down" on the bloated JS hellsite that is X. That page took 10s to appear on my machine (before even thinking of rendering the video) whereas the HN front page is <1s.

That’s right, you should do the conventional thing by using gmail, and then you’ll never encounter any difficulties because Google never make capricious decisions like (checks notes) blocking access from certain paying customers using a half-arsed regex.

I worked for a public sector organisation around then that had the same chairman (not CEO) as Iceland, sorry, “the Big Food Group”. He was genuinely one of the most obnoxious, bullying people I’ve ever encountered - known internally as the Poison Dwarf. So none of this greatly surprises me.

I remember seeing a river cruiser called "Sir Osis of the River"