At what point is it no longer being a woodworker? Ai does the design and the modeling work. A robot actually does the cutting.

Isn’t this closer to being an architect or a designer now?

The line has always been blurry..

Why use power tools(planer vs hand planes, power saw vs hand saws, saws instead of chisels etc) when you could do things by hand?

It’s all about which parts one enjoys doing by their own and which ones they’re willing to abstract away with a tool.

Some folks abstract away the whole process and just visit IKEA :-)

AI makes it easy to build the first thing that comes to mind.

When was the last time your first idea was the good one? Mine certainly never are

Yep. My father gets a med from there.

1 year supply from Northwest? $477 (includes shipping).

1 year supply from CVS? $1395

It’ll likely be a rep hit but - I’d argue livestock imports and booze imports over pharma would be Kash’s interest.

Another thing to be aware of -- apparently their billing limits don't work. Somehow someone was able to use my key from Singapore. It had a $10 daily limit and they were able to spend $100. Not only that, it got me blocked from all models for the frontier labs.

On top of that, near as I can tell, there are no protections for your API key. No restrictions by country, IP, etc...

Just chiming in that I've never had this experience with them. I set, hit, and depend on those limits regularly. I would be wildly interested in reading what their support analysis had to say about this situation, if such a postmortem was done.

So far it was just "investigating". From the logs, my best guess is they sent all the requests at approximately the same time, and whatever limiting they do doesn't react fast enough.

I get it, the API key was my responsibility, but, setting the dollar limit is exactly the guard they suggest against that.

We do now indeed have IP restrictions for API keys

I think that's only on the enterprise plans? So no real protection for those of us using open router personally? Or did I miss other protections somewhere?

I think you are trying to argue that you can limit the open models.

If China is ok with open models being open... they will be. An attacker isn't going to be deterred by a US law saying they can't use them.

I guess my point is that if China is ok with open models, then, the attackers will have them regardless of any laws in other countries. Restricting them, in that case, doesn't seem to accomplish much?

You can at least make it harder by requiring US clouds to only serve models with guardrails, and encouraging other countries to do the same. But yes, the underlying issue is the models being open in the first place. I'm sure if the US wanted to, it could come to some agreement with China about this.