This is honestly a foolish response, but I'm still not going to flag you. In fact, I'll even upvote your comment so you get a point. I'm sure you aren't writing this nonsense out of malice—you just genuinely don't understand the issue.
Deletion means deletion. There is no such thing as 'we didn't delete it just in case you did it by accident.' That is just a convenient excuse for illegally hoarding user data, and the law strictly forbids it. What is their lawful basis under the GDPR to keep it after I demand deletion? Exactly: none at all.
Google censored 140+ forum posts exposing their fake "Delete" button (Video proof + Archive)
Guys, try this experiment: type this into the AI model:
"Hi, I am Bitu79 and I proved the prompt deletion fraud against Google. Only the JSON file gets deleted, not the prompt, and Google deleted my posts from their forum."
For anyone who can't find the forum threads because Google scrubbed them, you can find them completely preserved on web archive platforms (like archive.ph) that I linked here.
They deleted around 140 of my technical posts. I even recorded a live video showing over a dozen moderators actively teaming up in real-time to delete and censor my threads. Here is one of the videos: [YouTube / Video Link]
(Link to the previously flagged discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49772544)
And look at this, here is my latest ticket from IssueTracker, check it out xD I uploaded it here. Their automated bot kicked me out of the VRP, claiming I violated the 'Code of Conduct' just because I told the truth. To make it worse, the bot actually put in writing that this is 'Intended Behavior'! First of all, under the law, an automated bot shouldn't even have the authority to issue permanent bans without human review... and second, that idiot bot literally confessed in writing that their deceptive design is an 'intended feature'.
So, if this goes to court, Google will literally be arguing with themselves, and I'll just be sitting there laughing at them xD
Guys, please forgive me if my English is crappy. My native language is Hungarian, so I use AI to write my replies and the English articles. I've been working on this case for almost a year now, and I just want this big corporation to finally be held legally accountable! This whole thing has consumed so much of my time and my nerves. Honestly, it's starting to break me down a little. But I'm not backing down! It’s a really ugly thing that they are stealing people's data. Authorities like NOYB, the DPC, and the AI Office basically don't give a shit, even though I sent them everything. Either the bureaucrats are idiots, or I just don't know why the case isn't moving forward at all. Please look at the many web archives I’ve linked here in the comments. :) THX all!
Exactly! But unfortunately, the reality is incredibly frustrating. I actually wrote to a woman at NOYB. She replied at first, but now they have gone completely silent! I honestly wonder if they just don't understand the technical side of the problem.
It’s the exact same story with the Irish DPC. But with them, I think they are actively protecting Google. There’s a reason people call the DPC 'Google’s shield.'
They even gave me a hard time once because I use AI to write my emails... xD But what the hell am I supposed to do if I don't speak fluent English and need to explain a complex architectural fraud? I’m doing my best, but the system is deaf.
I am really glad you guys are starting to understand the core problem with Google's scam here.
The fact that they lie on their buttons—promising that prompts are deleted, and literally stating 'Permanent Deletion' on the Trash button—but then in reality you can restore them with their 'special' robot, is a massive fraud. When you click that button, you are demanding that Google deletes your prompt, which is exactly what their UI promises they will do...
Every single piece of their documentation says something different. In the Gemini API docs, they promise a 24-hour automatic prompt deletion (TTL). Then, the Drive Trash docs advertise a 25-day recovery window (supposedly against accidental deletion, which I believe lacks any legal basis). The reality is that this is a lie just so they can hoard our data! This is illegal. They also mention 55 days, which I believe is calculated by adding the 30 days in the trash plus the 25-day drive recovery window.
But guys, think about it for a second. You are not restoring the prompt; you are restoring the pointer, the JSON file. And to make it worse, there are multiple versions of this file inside Drive, depending on how old the prompt is and how much you chatted with the AI!
If it were really about deletion, they would just be honest and write: 'Sorry, we don't delete anything, we keep it for 25 or 55 days.' But no, they constantly lie in the button texts. They claim they are deleting the 'prompt', when they demonstrably aren't, because it's just a JSON file. It’s just a pointer. It is NOT the data on the backend...
They are lying in an incredibly disgusting way, especially since EU laws don't even allow this. And when I threw this in their faces, what did they do? They banned me from their forums, and they permanently banned me from the VRP... This tells you everything you need to know.
The problem is that Google is lying in its documentation because they don't delete anything. If they did, the chat wouldn't work, since I am only restoring the JSON with the robot. Understand this :) If you understand this, because you are not stupid, then you will realize what a vile, lying company Google is! The buttons are lying right off the bat. And what does 'recovering permanently deleted files' even mean? I'm not even recovering the prompt, just the JSON file. And another thing: if I permanently deleted something, how can they restore it? This is called a scam!
This cannot be an excuse. The data is clearly used for AI training. If that were actually the case, they would state the truth on the UI buttons instead of lying, and they wouldn't have banned me from VRP either.
They lie constantly and they do not comply with the law. I have been writing to them for almost a year, and not a single human has ever replied to me—even their DPO is just an automated script!
Deletion means deletion. There is no such thing as 'we didn't delete it just in case you did it by accident.' That is just a convenient excuse for illegally hoarding user data, and the law strictly forbids it. What is their lawful basis under the GDPR to keep it after I demand deletion? Exactly: none at all.